Cruiserweight and Heavyweight thread.

Heavyweight division is rife for domination. I looked deep into the division looking for threats and none have developed so far. There's few tall guys and the better prospects are midgets in comparison (blown up cruiser Plechko is one example) that will probably never be real 12 round heavyweights. I could not come up with 50 names/contenders, or barely a list of 20 strong prospects and one got exposed last weekend (Granat) that was in that list. Wilder is really sitting pretty, knock out AJ, Parker and Ortiz and the division is his for a long time.

 

Let's see those fights then. Ortiz is ready go, no reason not to fight him next while waiting for the Joshua/Klitschko or Parker/Fury winner.

 

You should care about the details on why these fights are difficult to make. AJ/Klitshcko has 2 mandatories. Eddie Hearn talking about building the fight with Wilder for the end of the year. One of those mandatories is Ortiz. I know Ortiz is self hating and playing the attack dog for Eddie Hearn but he really should look out for his own best interests. He has an immediate title shot with the winner of that fight and should take it otherwise it's a duck.

Parker and his team was outright lying and pandering to fanboys pretending that they wanted Wilder next and would take on everybody. They knew the WBO purse bid was coming up to fight Hughie Fury and wasn't going to wait until after Wilder fought. Kevin Barry was taking September for Wilder/Parker and that was before the delay to May 6 against Hughie. Parker is going to fight the mandatory, if he wins fail to get AJ/Klitshcko winner cause they have mandatories, fight a voluntary instead of unifying and get a pass from you and other haters. Wilder is going to try to get AJ, then Parker, and that'll likely fail too through no fault of his own. All of this was always the case but people want to sit back like children berating daddy why they didn't get a playstation for christmas.

 

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Wilder is going to fight another shitty voluntary next and you're going to lap it up like a fanboy.

 

lol.... I cant believe you make it sound like parker is scared of wilder.... lmao.

 

He's so biased. He thinks GGG fights terrible opposition but will defend Wilder to the death. Wonder why?

 

In reality ... Wilder and Pulev are likely waiting for a big fight after Joshua/Klitschko is settled. T. Fury is in the background keeping one eye on how this plays out too. Haye probably is formulating some strategy to make a Joshua fight. Parker/Fury also likely want to go down that path. Ortiz will come into play when a window opens. + others.

Fury really held this dynamic up for a year with his messing about. I just hope that 2017 progresses it ... so we can see some meaningful heavyweight fights which are all the more interesting because they are going to mean something in the context of the division's history. At the moment it feels like many of the key fighters are just positioning themselves again and again and again. With any luck things are sort of in place to have a few memorable 'top of the table' clashes take place over the next 12 months (starts with Joshua/Klitschko which can't come soon enough).

 

Doesn't matter what the boxers think when the handlers make the decisions. I'm sure he'll fight anybody but his team has been lying their asses off. If that makes you feel better. Their team are out there busy trying to convince fanboys he isn't scared. Only fanboys think in those terms about fighters brave enough to get in that ring.

 

It's either a mandatory or unification, but I just showed you how unification isn't possible.

 

ggg fighting terrible opposition is just fact. Terrible in comparison to his supposed ATG status. That's not bias but the truth. Wilder on the other hand isn't being crowned as an ATG. Once again I have to break this down like you're a child so you can understand.

 

Actually, if Parker was treated like Wilder then yes, Parker is a scared ducking *****. We'll find out his intentions after he beats Hughie Fury. I don't want to hear anything but unification coming out of his mouth and signing a contract for a unification next. I don't want to hear he needs 4 months to prepare either. We shall if he sticks to his word. I'm not entertaining Parker's excuses.

 

So how long will it take for you to start criticizing Wilder? 3, 4 even 5 years without fighting a top 10 heavyweight? Relative to his division Wilder has faced FAR worse opposition. You criticize GGG but fawn over a fighter who has faced far worse opposition, who cares about what some people say? Quit trying to justify your own bias fanboy.

 

You've been hating on Wilder for how many years now and when have you ever been right? You're the one that's a biased fanboy. You did your hating but you don't have the intelligence to back off of it.
I don't hate or like ggg but since he was disgustingly being compared to ATG greats while having done nothing so he got criticism. ggg has been exposed as less than an ATG so I'm not so concerned about him anymore, my work is done. His opposition has been pathetic for a supposed ATG. When Wilder warrants criticism he'll get it but I don't give a **** if you believe that or not. There isn't anything to say when he has worked his way into a position to control his destiny. When are you going to admit you have been wrong about Wilder every single time and that you're staying with your hating out of pride? It's pretty obviously you'd wait a decade so at least you're persistent.

 

Only got the Stiverne fight wrong. Every major fight since early 2016 I've predicted is on record here, see Kirks prediction league. Nice deflection though, so you'll never hold Wilder accountable for his cherrypicking because you're a biased fanboy. I admitted to being wrong about the Stiverne fight, honored the 1 month ban bet like a man. When Wilder stops scraping the bottom of the barrel the criticism will stop.

 

I'll be ok with Wilder if he takes the first unification opportunity available ... probably best for him its AJ or Wlad. He has fought some ok opposition and fights fairly regularly. But this year has to be the year he cashes in or cashes out with a big fight with someone off top shelf.

If 2018 comes and he still hasn't made his play then that'd just be a really lame situation.