The Ring Magazine have updated their P4P list. Andre Ward is now the #1 P4P fighter in the world

it must be because the ring is owned by Roc Nation an all of the writers are wards American judges

 

LMAO!!!!

 

No, there are fights I didn't like the result of that are not robberies because my opinion is in the minority, I accept that.

However, 75% of the press had Kovalev beating Ward.
HBO and numerous score cards I've seen (official press scoring has not yet been tallied) had Gonzalez beating Rungvisai convincingly.

My opinion falls into the majority of noted observers. They lost their undefeated records but not their standing on an opinion driven list.

 

I don't care about the propaganda spread by HBO, I had the fight a draw for Kovalev vs Ward twice with sound and with no sound, so they way I have it neither would lose ground but I understand that in close fights either man can win. Anyone who says is a robbery sounds biased to me.

Didn't score the Gonzalez fight just sat back and enjoyed the war, when two guys recklessly abandon defense you just get a crazy slug fest which are very difficult to score. However the fight was very competitive and didn't look like a robbery to me, maybe Gonzalez won but it wouldn't have been by much vice versa with Rungvisai.

 

In this case HBO's alleged propaganda just happens to parallel with a strong majority of the boxing press.

Then you hold an opinion that is in the minority.

One guy was throwing more punches and landing crisp combos that hurt his man, the other was hitting arms and gloves inbetween headbutts.

 

1-10 lists are way to out dated. The way Roy said it was much better. You have #1 (A) and (B) then you have #2 (A) and (B). No way to list which fighter is better when they're in different divisions. Obviously Ward is higher than Kovalev because of the win but other than that you can't say Ward is better than Roman or anyone else on this list who has jumped divisions. Personally I don't even have a p4p list because that **** would take days of research and prep to get right and a month later I'd disagree with the list anyways.

 

You , sonny boy, are multi-delusional ...but at least consistent...

 

Nawww , Dre iz absolutely not the number 1 P4P fighter . Kovalev iz the man right now.
Triple G iz too high for my liking as well , Chocalitito should be number 3.

 

My pfp list is based on wins and losses. My list would be different if I had to go with my own personal list.

 

Then so be it, I don't put the press on a pedestal, for example Dan Raphael had the Gonzalez fight 117-109 ffs I don't have to score it to know he is harbouring a serious agenda there.

My opinion happens to be closer to the judges than the majority of the press, should I make a big deal out of it? No, i just accept the result just like with the GGG fight I thought Jacobs won clearly but as he didn't get the nod I just have to accept it.

Trust me if all he was hitting was elbows and arms the fight would not have been that close, you need to watch the fight away from HBO commentary and compubox numbers and see what you make of it.

What were your scores for the Kovalev Vs Ward and Gonzalez vs Wangek?

 

The list is kind to Roman, he should have dropped completely off that list. Ward was always #1 P4P.

 

No individual press should be held on a pedestal but when the vast majority are in agreement, you have to admit you are the outliner.

I had it 116-110 as well. Wangek won three-four rounds at best. I gave him 1, 11, and 7.

Because the fight wasn't close. I've watched it with the British and HBO commentary. I think the British was considerably worse. I don't care, I don't judge fights based off what announcers say.

Kovalev: 1,2,4,6,10 (KD scored)
Ward: 7,8,11
Even: 3,5,9,12
117-114 Kovalev

Gonzalez fight: Listed above.

edit-math correction

 

117-109 for the thai guy? are you crazy.... Gonzalez clearly won that fight... learn to judge -.-. just because a guy punches harder doesn't mean he wins rounds.

 

No...117-109 for Gonzalez.

Typo on my part there. The post was unfinished when I accidentally hit the button. Now the typo was my fault but it was pretty obvious what I meant....why the hell would I give Gonzalez round 1? Learn to use some cognitive deduction before getting all pissy.

 

GGG wayyyy too high at #3, Loma too low. Canelo shouldn't be on the list at all. Other than that not bad.