How would prime Calzaghe have done in THE SUPER SIX??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Todd498, Mar 20, 2017.


Would Super Joe have won it?

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  2. No

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  1. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ohhhh excuse me all to hell! He was 36 years old!! My bad!!!

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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Heard it all before.

    Bernard nearly got the nod, Reid nearly got the nod, and Bika made it a dirty, rough, hard nights work for him.

    All of those guys have similarities in size and styles, with Andre clearly being at a higher level.

    Whilst Joe could definitely have beaten him, it's foolish to claim that Andre wouldn't have had a chance.

    It would have been a real 50/50 fight, with an intriguing clash of styles.
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    A Wardtard?

    Seriously?

    How old are you?

    Why does he have to be: "My boy?"

    You are pathetic.


    Look, I have absolutely no problem at all with people thinking that Joe would have won the Super Six. I can definitely envisage him winning it myself. Joe was a great fighter, with a unique set of attributes. He could well have beaten Andre, no doubt.

    What I'm arguing against, is fools like you who are debating on emotion that's illogical, telling us all that Joe would have clowned everyone with absolute ease.

    Andre would have given Joe a tough fight.

    Stylistically, I think Andre Dirrell would also have been difficult.

    You can't come on here and tell us he'd have clowned these guys as well as a guy like Dawson, when to my knowledge, he only fought a handful of southpaws in his career.
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    How's it going mate?

    I promise I haven't forgot you on the lounge.

    I posted you a response with loads of links, and then my battery died on my IPad and I lost it all. Ha! I promise I'll be in touch soon.
     
  5. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    How many freak out posts have you made in the past 20 minutes there Spock??? How old are you?? Get over people's opinions jerkoff.
     
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    And yes.. I can come on here and say I am of the belief he'd CLOWN THE **** OUT OF WARD!! Lol! See... just did it again.

    Get over it!!

    Calzaghe CLOWNS Ward.
     
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  7. Loudon

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    Another NOTHING post.


    Freak posts?

    I'm old enough to appreciate 2 great fighters in Joe and Andre, knowing that it would have been a very intriguing clash of styles, where it could have gone either way.

    Again: I don't mind other people's opinions. Bring them on, it's a forum to debate. But you are embarrassing yourself saying that Joe mutilates and anhilates guys like Andre and Dawson, when he couldn't do that against lesser fighters.


    Now why don't you give me and everyone else here an actual debate.
     
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  8. Todd498

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    See there is your opinion "Andre would have given Joe a TOUGH fight." That's completely ILLOGICAL Captain Kirk! Let's use Logic here. There is no way Ward would have given Joe a tough fight. Who did he ever give a tough fight to remotely like Joe. You're thinking on emotion.

    See how easy that is?? You have a right to your opinion but for you to spend the past 30 minutes hacking on everybody in this thread who happens to think Joe ****s Ward up easily... there is something wrong there.

    Got a soft spot for Ward huh?! Lol!
     
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  9. Loudon

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    You can say it as many times as you like. But give us a breakdown based on logic instead of emotion.

    If you think he'd have clowned the sh*t out of him, kindly tell us how he couldn't do that against the likes of: Reid, Bika and Hopkins.

    I'll wait.
     
  10. Todd498

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    Dude... what the **** is wrong with you??! I've stated why I am of the belief Joe clowns Ward already!!! Lol!

    But here goes again!! Ready?? Joe had too much speed, ring IQ, fluidity, volume and would have gotten inside Andre's head unlike any other during the fight by frustrating him similar to Hopkins.

    Don't like that opinion?? Too bad.

    "I have no problems with others opinions." Lol! In the same paragraph... "You are embarrassing yourself saying Joe mutilates Ward."

    Good talk there Spock :thumbsup:
     
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  11. yesihavearm2

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    The argument that "Joe couldn't annihilate far lesser fighters" doesn't hold water, if I were to use that argument I could say that Dawson nearly lost to Glen Johnson, and also to Karpency / Fonfara ETC....

    Dawson had good physical attributes but a complete lack of boxing intelligence, something that you absolutely need when facing someone as multifaceted as Calzaghe.
     
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  12. Loudon

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    If you really think it's illogical that Andre would have caused Joe problems, then:

    1. You are beyond clueless.

    2. There was no point in you making the thread.


    Back to reality:

    Did Robin Reid give Joe problems?

    Did Sakio Bika give Joe problems?

    Did Bernard Hopkins give Joe problems?

    YES.

    That is a FACT.

    Watch the fights.


    Andre Ward is roughly the same size, with the timing and skill of Hopkins, but with a dirty side to him that can sometimes replicate Bika's style of fighting. He also possesses more speed than those guys.

    Like Joe, he's an elite fighter, with great attributes.


    You are just embarrassing yourself claiming that Joe would have annilhated these guys.


    Yes, Andre has never fought a guy like Joe. Which means he'd have really been up against it, trying to time his speed.

    Now kindly tell me how many southpaws Joe has beaten, and explain to me how he'd have easily have beaten the likes of Dirrell and Dawson.
     
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    Those 3 fighters you listed were damn good fighters, I'm not sure why you are using them to back up your point? A lot of people thought Bika beat Ward...

    Ward vs Calzaghe is a pick'em fight between IMO the two best fighters of the higher-weight classes of recent times. That's the fight that we should be talking about, not lesser fighters like Glass Jaw Dawson and Dirrell.
     
  14. Loudon

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    You are an absolute simpleton

    Maybe you'll learn to read one day.


    I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS IF THEY ARE BASED ON LOGIC.

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

    GIVE ME A BREAKDOWN THAT I CAN RESPECT.

    How can I respect an opinion that Joe would have mutilated Ward, just because you say so on the grounds that you hate him???
     
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    You can use that argument. There will always be an exception, especially due to styles. But Joe could not annihilate guys who were lesser fighters than Andre, and who also shared similarities in size and styles.

    It's just pure ignorance.

    Regarding Chad, yes, he had flaws. But before he lost to Andre when he messed up his weight, he had confidence and a lot of great attributes. Nobody can assume it would have been a given that Joe would have beaten him, considering the only rated southpaw he beat was Mario Veit.

    If you think he'd have beaten Chad, that's cool. But saying he'd have annihilated him and he'd have beaten Dirrell with ease etc, is based on nothing.