Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

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Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins?

  1. Anthony Joshua

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  2. Muhammad Ali

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    These are the weights of Ali in his top victories and the weights of his opponents

    Sonny Liston 1: Ali - 210.5 Liston - 218
    Sonny Liston 2: Ali - 206 Liston - 215.25
    Norton 2: Ali - 212 Norton - 205
    Frazier 2: Ali - 212 Frazier - 209
    Foreman: Ali - 216.25 Foreman - 220
    Frazier 3: Ali - 224.5 Frazier - 215.5
    Norton 3: Ali - 221 Norton - 217.5

    Ali has the weight advantage in 4 of 7 fights. Of those 4, 2 of those are negligible. Ali had the "advantage" of weight in 2 fights, Norton 2 and Frazier 3 with an average of 8 lb advantage. For the 3rd Frazier fight he weighed about 225 so it's safe to say that that wasn't functional weight that aided his victory.

    So in reality of Ali's top 7 wins he held a true advantage in only 1 fight therefore you are wrong...again. Btw having the "stamina advantage" is a product of hard work, not something that is unalterable...moron.
     
  2. Glass City Cobra

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    Are you drunk? There isnt a single active heavyweight who can match Alis stamina, speed, or chin. He still has one of the top 5 jabs of all time and a great lead right hand and flurries. None of his best qualities are "obsolete".
     
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  3. SmackDaBum

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    He would have to run circles around someone like Joshua. And clinching would be energy draining as hell for him.

    Stamina... against tweeners isnt the same like against SHWs...

    Chin... you are deluded. You cant compare his chin against tweeners to modern SHWs...

    Jab... His jab was outjabbed by Norton for god sake... overrated by a mile..

    Just look at boxers moving up in weight classes. The advantage they had goes away...

    Its simple logic.
     
  4. dawnofthedead

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    Joshua is still largely unproven to be fair and his size, strength and power will do him no favours in this proposed match up. Ali would play with him and win either by late stoppage or unanimous decision. Ali was arguably, barring possibly Joe Louis, the greatest heavyweight to lace up a glove and he ate punchers up like Joshua for breakfast. Liston, Frazier, Foreman, Lyle and Shavers all defeated and i cannot see Joshua being any different. Ali TKO 10 Joshua...
     
  5. dawnofthedead

    dawnofthedead Member Full Member

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    Absolutely, any person who does not recognise Muhammad Ali as the greatest heavyweight of all time, clearly has an agenda..
     
  6. SmackDaBum

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    Would you take amir Khan against Kovalev?

    "Size doesnt matter" ...
     
  7. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    -Youre right, hed run circles around aj and make him look like a hungover cow.

    -Are you stupid? You do realize it takes more stamina to go 15 rounds against in shape prime lean heavyweights than going 12 rounds with lumbering fat heavyweights? Frazier had one of the highest workrates of any heavy.

    -Ali took flush shots from foreman, shavers, why am i even having this stupid ass debate. Alis chin is without question. Next.

    -jab...ok name one heavyweight besides wladmir in the last 10 years who jad a jab anywhere near as good as Alis.
     
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  8. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    5'10, old, past prime, out of shape James Toney from Holyfield and Sam Peter fights would go through Joshua's 18-0 record undefeated. Some food for thought for james schmit and galvatmoron.
     
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  9. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hey Galvo, stop taking my name in vain, what did I ever do to you? Apart from repeatedly school you on here that is.
    Anyway reading the posts above one from DagaWop just reminded me I knew I'd come across the style of your clueless utterances before, that's it, the legendary Uncletermite who got chased out of the Classic.
    You certainly are a glutton for punishment, but I notice you're losing it on here with being constantly humiliated, you're gradually becoming more aggressive.
    I think we all need to take care here, because when he fought Galvo went by the name of Rocky Marshmallow, a real hard SOB.
     
  10. mafioso

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    i wonder what prime ali would have looked like if he didnt have his license suspended for so long...they stole the prime of this legend :(
     
  11. DaveKrieg

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    Ali is 6'2 210 most of his prime . Foreman was 6'3 230 when measured as a teenager and drained himself to get lighter for some weird reason. Joshua is a guy who bulked up by using PED's.

    In any case Joshua was stopped in the amateurs by smaller guys. Joshua has yet to really fight anybody worth mentioning. If he beat Wlad what would that prove? Corrie Sanders who was 6'4 230 knocked him out, Ross Purrity who was 6'3 240 knocked him out and the 6'2 220 or so pound Lamon Brewster knocked hi mout.
     
  12. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    Daaaamnn how did this thread get to 66 pages. It tells me there are a lot of young people on this board....
     
  13. James Smith

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    Foreman lost his first two amateur fights, and lost all three times to Clay Hodges when he faces him in the amateurs. Yes Joshua will stop him in record time.
     
  14. DaveKrieg

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    No I think anybody who thinks Ali is the greatest of all time is just delusional and or believes whatever they are told. Norton beat Ali 3 times. The greatest doesn't lose to the same person 3 times in a row.

    There is no greatest at any sport of all time. Because nobody is perfect and in boxing nobody can beat every style.
     
  15. DaveKrieg

    DaveKrieg New Member banned Full Member

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    Foreman was 17 fighting a grown man and he wasn't knocked out or hurt by Clay Hodges. Joshua was stopped by average amateur guys. Then turned got on PED's bulkled up and fought a bunch of nobodies as pro.