Usyk = poor man's Holyfield

Lol. Seems like you have a bone to pick with Usyk. It's really only the elite of the division he might struggle with or lose to. Everyone else he beats comfortably. CW is far more talented and stacked division, most of the top CW could easily contend at HW.

 

Holyfield has a win over Bowe.

Usyk would need a win over Joshua to match such a feat, I don't see it.

I could see Usyk beating Parker or Wilder in the future with the right conditioning.
@GALVATRON- Why you so low on Usyk for HW?

 

I agree. Usyk and Gassiev are the only ones with that potential.

 

They would easily beat the bums at HW , but against the Top 5 Giants in the HW Division , i dont really know , but i can see Usyk as a Top 5 Heavyweight in the future

 

I know something about Usyk you guys dont and im telling you he will lose when and if he faces a decent skilled puncher at HW. Elite has to be top 10? you take the best cruiser ...yea he can creep into that stack but,he will not be the dominant guy he was at cruiser weight from what ive seen.

 

I mean... only in the most oblique sense of being elite cruisers equipped to defeat a lot of good medium-sized heavies on skill alone but who might hit the wall against upper echelon super heavies.

Otherwise there's very little similarity between them.

 

Usyk defeating Joshua is beyond far fetched.

Parker while not impressive as others is a better HW than Usyk in at cruiserweight in terms who would defeat who...those talking cruiserweight talent against HW difficulty dont know what their talking about.

 

Nowhere did I say he beats the elite guys, but he definitely beats most of the contenders and all of the fringe contenders.

 

I think he can beat Joseph Parker in a close Fight , but he would lose to Anthony Joshua without a question,
i cant see him win against him under any circumstances, maybe if AJ fights with one leg like David Haye.
AJ is too fast , too tall and too powerful.
He could win on Points against Deontay Wilder if he survives 12 Rounds with him , but i dont think he can

 

But that is the topic...how does he do? i can name a few guys other than Usyk to be around that size/weight that did good...any top guy could potentially do good,different era,different fighter,and different skills needed for his style to succeed.

 

Usyk vs 87 Holyfield would go life and death, no doubt about that.

 

You rate Parker higher among HWs than Usyk among CWs? Most rate Usyk at number 1 at CW, as do I.

I agree Usyk has nothing for Joshua but Parker isn't so much bigger that Usyk couldn't bulk up to bridge the weight deficit. If he did so and retained most of his ability and gained in strength and power I would have thought he could be a better HW than Parker.

Where am I going wrong here? What am I missing?

 

But Joseph Parker is a natural Heayvweight despite being not a lot taller than Usyk , he has 40 Pounds more than him.

 

Like I said. He almost certainly beats most contenders and fringe contenders on skill alone but there's no way of knowing how he'd fare against one the elite until it happens. Size and power might be too much for him to cope with.