Usyk = poor man's Holyfield

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  1. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Nothing that a stack of roids can't fix.
     
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  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No i rate them h2h...but Parker for a Hw is better than what i see from Usyk in cruiserweight. Sure Usyk looks better in Cruiserweight...not the case if he steps in the HW's. Parker is about as skilled as Usyk but....... i believe Parker adjusts to the actual fight unlike Usyk who needs to move around more and has a very basic set up (like Parker). Im not sold on Parker either but hes fought actuall HW's and he himself is 6'4 240 pounds,im not seeing really a ready fighter in Usyk to go in Hw. we also are talking NOW...how good will Parker be in a few fights? While Usyk has to adjust to HW?
     
  3. Okin129

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    yes , damn those Heavyweight Fighters in the Top 5 are fu**ing machines , when you imagine that someone like Parker is the smallest.
     
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  4. seck

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    And a win over Tyson.
     
  5. JoffJoff

    JoffJoff Regular Junkie Full Member

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    I suppose time will tell as Usyk is on record as having aspirations to go up to HW. I hate when your opinion is so different to my own, really sets the doubts in.

    Completely off topic but would you mind giving me your prediction for Brook/Spence?
    I originally picked Brook by decision but now I am convinced Spence stops him.
     
  6. JoffJoff

    JoffJoff Regular Junkie Full Member

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    2 wins over Tyson, but the Bowe victory is incredible.
     
  7. seck

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    No doubt, especially when you take the size disparity into account!
     
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  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well this is the NOW...different era...different ways to fight and these guys are getting more athletic which started with the Lewis's and Klitchko's of guys over 240 pounds. people want to IGNORe this but big ppl are not easy to fight ,most of the time more skilled smaller ones are easier to deal with . i had a sparring partner of 6'3 260 and couldnt fight for nothing,he was harder than the guys my own size bc of the size. This is called changing with the times,these guys are getting bigger/more skilled and adapting to faster paced fights bc of all the cross training....its a BIG thing and alot of science.I trained for over 30 years ,i used to watch Lennox Lewis when he first started incorporating weights in my gym in the poconos ...even got a slap boxing match with him,,....man he was fast even then 1992.
     
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  9. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    amd roids.
     
  10. Okin129

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    Yes, therefore i think that Deontay Wilder is rather underrated than overrated , that guy has tremendous Power and his boxing Skills getting better every Fight
     
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  11. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well i could be wrong ,but not wrong with the Usyk of NOW.....


    I will study them...when is that fight?
     
  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well hes developing with a SLOW crawl...hes not fighting the right guys to better his chances against the other guys. You cant underate him bc he has not done anything to overate him...see what i mean? I have a guy Pro boxer at my gym who ive also fought ( outside the ring) and Wilder knocked him out quickly early in his career but WHEN you step up....thats how you progress....his right hand hand is dangerous but you cant overrate him bc of soley that. His skills are over shadowed by his relying on his length,,he said himself he doesnt care to learn more ,and get by with unorthodox methods...which DOES work FOR NOW.:ggg
     
  13. JoffJoff

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    I believe you on the present h2h concerning Usyk at HW, I know you're legit. (Just imagine him PEDing his way to gaining the extra weight required & also he recently switched trainers to Anatoly Lomachenko)

    Brook/Spence scheduled for late May, but probably happens early June. About even at the book but it's in Brooks hometown.
     
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  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I'll give him a pass... Well, a partial pass at least... The scandal if I remember correctly was during the latter part of his career, and even then. Who roids or not would step with the best no questions asked with the regularity that Holyfield did?
     
  15. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well hes 6'3 or so carrying around 225 would be normal...beyond that say 240 or so???Well his next fight will be against an equal size guy so we can see more his next opponent can at least punch a little too.