Which lineal champ from holmes onwards could Jerry quarry defeat?

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  1. Hookie

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    Well, with HWs it's different. You have the bigger and stronger factor. You sometimes have the bigger, stronger, and more durable factor. When you have a guy who is bigger, stronger, more durable, faster, and more skilled... how could you consistently pick against him? Quarry would be able to upset a lot of good and maybe even great fighters if they came in unprepared... but that's not really a fair assessment is it? Moorer at his best vs. Quarry at his best? I'll take Moorer all day. Take Moorer (from the Foreman fight, yep I said it) and any Quarry you want, Moorer would box his ears off.
     
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    Moorer is taller, has a longer reach, he is bigger, he's faster, he's more skilled, he fights from the southpaw stance but is actually right handed (a hard right jab), he is stronger, and punches harder. Quarry was more durable but Quarry did not hit hard enough and was not skilled enough to stop Moorer.

    Moorer wins by decision but I would not rule out a stoppage on cuts. Quarry was probably down more times than most of you realize though.
     
  3. Drew101

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    Quarry likely hits as hard as the past-prime version of Cooper that dropped Moorer twice, though. Was likely more skilled than that version of Cooper, too. Moorer sometimes found himself getting drawn into shoot-outs, and while he could certainly win one against Quarry it's not guaranteed.
     
  4. Hookie

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    Rahman? Quarry had decent overall skills but once the boxing match became a fight Quarry would brawl and wasn't hard to find. Sure, Quarry looked like a skilled technician against lower level guys but against Rahman he would not look like one. Quarry did not have the one shot power of Tua, Lewis, or even Maskaev. Taller, much longer reach, much bigger, stronger, punched harder, and durable enough. He was also skilled enough. I'll take Rahman. even in his losses to Tua and Maskaev x2 Rahman boxed very well. He should have received the victory in the rematch vs. Tua. He was able to put Lewis away inside of 5 rounds even if he got crushed inside of 4 rounds in their rematch. His win over Corrie Sanders was very good. Rahman went down vs. Sanders but for the most part outboxed Sanders and eventually put him away in the 7th round.

    I think I'd pick Monte Barrett over Quarry, maybe even Mo Harris.
     
  5. Hookie

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    Nothing is guaranteed but Cooper punched like a mule kick, probably still does. Moorer liked to brawl sometimes and that would be Quarry's best chance... but I don't think Quarry had enough power to make it count. I think you're underrating Cooper's power.
     
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    Quarry vs. Bert Cooper? Now there is a fight! I could see Quarry winning a decision but it's a good back and forth battle for most of the fight.
     
  7. Drew101

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    Cooper could certainly bang, but I don't think he was really any more dangerous at that point than Quarry was at his best. Quarry was hardly feather-fisted and at his best his skill-set was quite a bit better than that iteration of Smokin' Bert.
     
  8. Drew101

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    Agreed. Cooper always had a way of having good moments, even in a lot of his losses.
     
  9. Hookie

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    Quarry was the better fighter overall. I do agree with that. Quarry could hurt people too. I just think that hook of Cooper's was deadly is he could land it.
     
  10. Drew101

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    Oh, for sure. I remember watching Cooper eviscerate Willie DeWit, and then drop and badly hurt Holyfield. Dude could definitely crack, especially with the hook.
     
  11. Curtis Lowe

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    Quarry would KO Moorer, Moorer's chin would let him down.

    As for Rahman, Quarry would eat him alive. Rahman was a very basic, limited fighter, a jab, jab, right hand, followed by an occasional left hook.
     
  12. Saad54

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    Shannon Briggs
     
  13. Hookie

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    This is a Briggs that could still move a little. I thought Foreman beat him but Briggs gave Lewis a few scary moments before being stopped in the 5th round. When he faced Darroll Wilson his best win had been a KO of Sherman Griffin. Wilson stopped him early in an upset. He came back with 4 KO wins including Tim Ray, Melton Bowen, and Jorge Valdes prior to his fight with Foreman. Not a great resume and he hasn't done much to add to it since the loss to Lewis even though he managed to pick up the WBO HW title by stopping S. Liakhovich late in their fight... a fight that Briggs was losing badly.

    I'll take Quarry on points. What the hell
     
  14. Hookie

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    These two get talked about too much though. Liston was way better than Quarry and deserves some of that talk but what some people say about Quarry is ridiculous.
     
  15. DaveKrieg

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    Lol Holyfield Moorer. Yeah a undefeated champion in Moorer fighting a hall of famer in Holyfield was weak.

    Foreman vs Briggs, Lou Saverase, Shannon Briggs was better than various fighters in their primes fought.

    Quarry couldn't beat Foreman even a old one, Holyfield, Douglas, Briggs, or Moorer. Quarry is highly overrated in forums like this. Quarry was a decent guy for 190. He did have a few decent wins. Like over hype job Mac Foster, glass chin Shavers and a shocking win over Ron Lyle who didn't take him seriously. Neither one of these guys are as good as the guys you named.

    I can't even imagine Quarry beating somebody as bad as John Ruiz.