How would prime Calzaghe have done in THE SUPER SIX??

And Ward isn't an ATG either, both are at 168 but other than that meh.

 

Fighters peak and dip at different times. Some fighters are past best earky in their careers and also wear and tear can take hold. Hopkins was scoring his best wins when Calzaghe beat him with Tarver, Wright and Pavlik and the Calzaghe loss sandwiched between, then later he was beating Pascal.
There was only about 3 years between Calzaghe and Roy, but lets look at it all. First off Calzaghe was not bigger. Hopkins turned pro inside the CW limit! and Roy had been a HW champ as well as LHW for a long time.
Calzaghe was closer to the end of his career, had badly damaged hands and was having to go up to a new weight to get those fights which he did and came away having beaten both.

What on earth are you going on about?

To who? I agree Hopkins has made a great name by being the oldest champ ever but lets remember he lost to Calzaghe. When you look at what fighters did at the weight they were fought at, Hopkins doesnt have any wins as good as prime Kessler or Eubank. Calzaghe has both and a Hopkins win. Calzaghe when you break it down is the greater fighter

Who were the better opponents Froch faced at LHW? Pascal didnt do anything at SMW, Dirrell didnt do much at LHW, Johnson didnt do much at LHW. Who are you thinking of because Frochs best SMW win is faded end of career Kessler who Calzaghe beat when prime.
Come on give me all these SMW names. I bet you dont as you have been completely destroyed in this debate

No he wasnt as popular? And???

Why are you going on about Hatton? Is it because you have been owned on the Calzaghe debate?
All countries hype their own. Thats why it was no real shock to me when Calzaghe beat Hopkins and Jones who had been hyped

 

I think TheyDontBoxNoMore7 tries to talk up Froch because Ward beat Froch. Dont be shocked if im correct there.
Ward cant be held in the same high regard as Calzaghe at SMW as Ward didnt clear out the division. He beat faded Kessler that Calzaghe beat when prime, who beat Froch, who beat Bute but didnt face any when undefeated and prime.

 

Ward would defeat Calzaghe who struggled with Kessler. Froch may potentially chin Calzaghe.

 

but ward has not finished his career, how on earth would he be ATG?

he has however shown the mettle and character and career path of an ATG. taking the two top prime scalps from the above division beats scraping past 2 40somethings by light years (though joe did very well by his own standards to manage it).

ok, I'm out, its time for you to reply with some kind of fictional personal insult now below which everyone will ignore again VVVV

 

Ward never at SMW fought anyone as good as that version of Kessler and that was end of career Calzaghe having his last fight at the weight as an older fighter.
What about Ward who struggled with Bika or Kovalev who mainly used a jab.

Still massively favour Calzaghe

 

he easily beat healthy kessler. joe marginally beat one handed kessler and didnt bother with healthy kesssler for a good reason.

 

Another interesting debate would be how prime Sven Ottke would get on in the S6. I would guess with his elusive boxing that he would do very well.
We know that Allen lost to Johnson and Froch struggled with faded boiled down Johnson where some felt he lost that fight and Ottke clearly out boxed prime G Johnson, so I would guess Ottke would possibly win the S6 also.
I dont know if Ottke would have beaten prime Kessler due to styles but the S6 version, I think he could outpoint.
It would be interesting to see Ottke/Ward as neither were massive punchers.
I think this would be a close competitive fight but slightly favour Ottke on points

 

Ottke couldn't beat Kessler, Froch or Ward.

 

You don't have to be reitred to be classed as an ATG and that 40 something version of Hopkins would stand cave man Froch on his head.

Calzaghe was the man in his division something Froch never has been.

And im glad you are out because you are a boring sob

 

You say this but I also doubt you probably watched Ottke in his prime.
Froch was in a tough debatable fight with old, boiled down G Johnson yet Ottke just out boxed a prime Johnson.
Kessler was faded during the S6. He was able to beat Froch but the footwork and combinations were missing as noted in his fight before the S6. Prime Kessler I think would possibly beat Ottke but not the S6 version I dont think

 

I know about all of the top smws mofo. Froch Johnson was debatable? Lmfao... Foh. Johnson isn't the measuring stick for the SMWs. Ottke was a decent boxer but he was scared of Calzaghe. Petrified of him. If he wasn't he would've fought him.

 

Bhop s body of work eclipses JC. I'm glad you took your time with this bull**** post. Eubanks and Kessler are overrated by far if you want to pull RJJ is overrated (which then hurts JC resume further). This is why Bhop is rated over your guy.


Glen Johnson
RJJ
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De La Hoya
Jermaine Taylor
William Joppy
Kelly Pavlik
Antonio Tarver
Winky Wright
Jean Pascal
Chad Dawson
Tavoris Cloud
Shenmunov
Kovalev

I'm sure I forgot some names but that resume and body of work is ridiculous. Your guy is hanging out with Tyson Fury right now doing lines. Yes I know it's hard for you to understand but even though Bhop lost to Calzaghe, he will always be rated higher than him for eternity. This is just the truth and you need to accept it. James Toney punked Eubank from the phone. Eubank was okay. Nothing great. As far as Kessler. He barely got by Andrande for his American debut then he lost to Calzaghe his next fight. His best win is a home cooked meal against Froch. He's not that good good either, prime or not.

If Calzaghe stuck around and fought more people other than pulling a Tyson Fury when the spotlight got too big, sure he could have a better case but as of now.....

Bhop>>>>>>The magician British stoppage extrodinare Calzaghe. Floyd didn't use his brittle hands as an excuse. You're guys two best wins are two old guys. Deal with it. He quit at the right time because he knew it was only exposure moving forward. As I've already said. Go back to the lounge. Act like you won some make believe victory as you already did when you PM'd your friend. It won't change the fact that Bhop will always be rated higher. Fact.

 

Joe Calzaghe, Sergey Kovalev, Joe Smith Jr > Hopkins.

 

well to be fair calzaghe wasn't allowed all them painkiller injections floyd was allowed