George Foreman compares his two punching styles

So nothing then? Got ya, and that's what I thought would occur. All you came back with is, oh, they were under a microscope and you're armchair QBing and judging. They were afforded luxuries most people could only dream of, yet I'm supposed to be concerned about relaying facts THEY admit. Oh boo hoo, cry me a river why don't ya. The simple facts are as I stated, and that is just how it likely is, not the inverse (more implausible one)

 

well yes but when a man is hurt George was always going to follow through on his instinct and subconsciously he will deliver as much force as he can muster. And he did. He hit Cooney with everything he had.

angry fighters lose. Boxing is about channeling aggression correctly. Intimidation, whilst an effective tool is strictly part of the "mind games" department. As raw as George was, as ferocious as he appeared, as a young man, he knew what he was doing. He did not need to be restrained. There was no police escort.

The kind of anger Foreman possessed as a young man was a persona. An image he projected. Sure he was an angry young man, as a young man can be, but in the ring he was stern certainly, but by no means a maniac.

Foreman finally worked out his limitations. He had to understand economy. He was older and needed to pace himself. As a young man he never understood his body. He could not relax. As an old man he had to relax. He had no choice.

 

The only guys who know whether or not they hit as hard as they could are Louis and Foreman. You have to take their word for it or establish them liars. Foreman in his late 60s has hardly anything to gain from saying he didn't hit guys as hard as he could. If you go on his twitter he replies quite often to tweets and is very modest. If he was trying to hype himself up he wouldn't post have of the stuff he does.

I don't think Louis had anything to gain either. His ring career was over and he had financial troubles to worry about. Not some dumb legacy.

 

As a former amateur boxer all i can say is the "intentions" behind the punch do matter. If you hit the bag or the mitts as hard as you can by trying to get the most out of your hip rotation and shoulder snap thats one thing, but if you really get angry and think about breaking the mittholders shoulders or something you actually can hit 15% or so harder. Thats just my personal experience. As i grew up i learned to control my emotions and channel my anger, i learned that if you actually think about hurting your opponent and throw with vicious intentions it is more effective than if you just think about throwing a punch as if you were throwing a ball as far as you can. I guess you can get some extra adrenaline and ferocity behind the punch if you really throw it with mean intentions. It's hard to describe

 

Again, I'm disputing any claim that says Joe Louis NEVER punched with his full power. That is totally nonsensical. Nobody is saying he did so all the time, or even most of the time, but to think he never throw a punch as hard as he could EVER is silly. That makes zero logical sense.

 

I just don't think he would have said it if it wasn't true.

 

Also how hrd you throw in the ring depends on your speed, balance and coordination. Mike tyson was pretty accurate even though he put everything in his punches and threw them with bad intentions because he had great handspeed and coordination/balance in his prime because of talent, the amount of resources that were put into training him(he was practically groomed to be HW champion) and because he fought so often and stayed sharp when he was at his best .
Other people who have great power and strength may not throw wiith full power because they would miss or be off balance and leave themselves open for counters. George foreman sometimes looked like he swung too hard but he was so powerful and strong that even though you saw his punch coming it would still hurt you if it hit you anywhere. People that have boxed know there is a difference between throwing a punch with proper form and force, and a hailmary punch.

 

You do realize EVERYBODY at some point or another exaggerates a claim. It's just something that happens. What we also know is, Foreman and Louis have outright held back or distorted the truth. Both have admitted such. So, I'm not sure how the "well they said it" so it must be true holds up here as definitive proof. Especially when it's flying in the face of logic and common sense.

 

nobody is claiming otherwise. Can you honestly do something other than your usual tactic of saying something I never did, and trying to argue that for paragraph after paragraph. I mean, it's pretty annoying, though it does make it easier to win debates with you. Show me any place where I said it wasn't easier to load up on a heavy bag as opposed to a real fight. Of course it is, but that doesn't mean you've NEVER throw a punch as hard as you could in a fight. I've made it clear it doesn't happen the majority of the time, but what is also clear is, it has happened at some point in his career. Period

 

Yeah unless a fighter is angry, inexperienced or stupid, hes not gonna throw as hard as he can if he is going to miss and leave himself open. Anyone who has boxed knows that except for a few freaks like foreman you cant just throw hail mary's at your opponent.

 

When did they distort or hold back the truth?