George Foreman compares his two punching styles

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watch most Foreman interviews. Now he's almost humble to a fault. He talks about some fighters in a much more glowing light than he used to, and as a detriment to himself. Watch most of his interviews as he's gotten older, and they are full of patting on the back hyperbole. That isn't even getting into examples like claiming he was poisoned.. managers working for the other guy etc etc. He's flat out said he's said things because he couldn't accept what happened, and they were flat out lies. Louis is kind of a different case all together. He was groomed by management on EXACTLY what to say and how to act. This is well documented. They were so concerned about him being looked at like Jack Johnson that they went overboard to portray a totally different image. His management and himself have point blank said that Joe didn't always express his views or beliefs on issues because they didn't want it to come across wrong. He was trained and measured in how he was to respond. They hide some of the white woman he spent time with so it wouldn't cause any backlash. So when you aren't able to express certain views or need to outright him them or your lifestyle, why would it be so shocking to see him exaggerate a statement? I don't think it's far fetched at all he would, because he has before. So when there is all of the above, and the statement flies in the face of logic, I call bull****.
     
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  2. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why do you keep saying this over and over as if you have a point somewhere? Do you actually believe it's logical, that at NO point in his entire boxing career, including sparring, Louis never threw a punch as hard as he could? That defies logic and common sense that this wouldn't have occurred. It's bordering on stupid to think it never has. You're acting like I'm saying they throw punches as hard as they can each punch. I'm not, I'm not even they say they do that most of the time, what I am saying is, it has happened. Period.
     
  3. GordonGarner65

    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    Yep,George talks crap alot of the time.
    His autobiography is full of contradictions and inconsistency. You gotta just laugh, he's actually quite entertaining if you dont take him too Seriously.
     
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  4. DaveKrieg

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    You are so dead wrong. He would hit people with a punch when he was older and back off like he didn't want to hurt the fighter ( Unless he felt that fighter could hurt him like Cooney).

    George Foreman when he was younger didn't want to project anything. He was a violent street thug turned boxer. According to not just himself he wanted to kill somebody in the ring just to see how it felt.

    Foreman got tired in one fight in his prime and suffered a heat stroke in another. He never had problems with stamina. That is just something one moron touted then other morons followed suit. When he came back he could of been more relaxed because he didn't want to kill anybody like he used too. He also threw his punches a lot more sloppy. He was off balanced half of the time, something he didn't do in his youth.

    His hooks were the only punch he threw wide. Because you can't throw anything else wide. But when he came back out of retirement they were even more wide. Which effected his power. When he was older he would let guys get close to him and smother his power.

    From the weight, to the sloppiness and everything else. Foreman was a way weaker puncher in his comeback.
     
  5. Mr.DagoWop

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    I've been watching multiple Foreman interviews and I can't really find any lies in them. It would help if you could provide an example.

    You can't put that stuff on Joe Louis. Do you realize the time period that Joe Louis lived in? During the 30s black people were treated like **** on the bottom of a boot. There would have been outright riots and lynchings in the south if Joe Louis didn't censor what he said. It had nothing to do with being dishonest, it had to do with no putting the lives of millions in danger. 10 years prior to Joe Louis turning pro, an entire state was controlled by the KKK. There is simply no proof that Joe Louis was a liar. Following a set of rules in order to not risk lives is not lying, it's survival. Put that **** on the racist cucks of his time, not him.
     
  6. KuRuPT

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    NO issue putting that on the racists of the time, but the fact remains, he was truthful about certain issues or parts of his life. He was very careful managed what to say and when to say it. Those are just the facts. It doesn't matter the reason, for the purposes of our discussion, only that it occurred correct? Which again, is why I say, Joe Louis saying something can't be taken as the verbatim truth as Joe Louis always saw it.
     
  7. Mr.DagoWop

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    It does matter the reason. That is probably the most important part. Withholding information to not get people lynched is a lot different from withholding information to boost ego.
     
  8. KuRuPT

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    No, because the reason why he did is irrelevant to OUR discussion at hand, not irrelevant in general. In other words, him saying such a thing could easily fit into the whole... not wanting to be viewed as the "animal, devoid of emotions and morals" some whites thought them to be. Saying you've never tried to hit somebody as hard as you could, could easily be viewed as him being sympathetic and compassionate. Things his management would want him to be viewed as i.e. a positive light. Again, the machine in place that forced him to shield some of the truths he withheld doesn't matter. Only the fact that he did so, for whatever the reason imo
     
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  9. GordonGarner65

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    "He NEVER had problems with stamina"
    Your quote.
    I stoped reading anything you had to say, at that point.
     
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    Every single human being has lied or distorted the truth. It's a part of life.
    You weigh all angles of things, not just one strand, and extrapolate it as a whole. Like taking an instance where Louis was instructed to curate his actions, and apply that to his credibility on boxing technique.

    Is there one boxer out there whom you considered to have never lied, and therefor should be believed?
    How about any human ever? Can you name one?

    If not, then your logic dictates that no person should believe no person.

    You still haven't given a single boxing related analysis as to how you are so sure that these guys landed their hardest punch. If you have no analysis to give, besides calling Foreman and Louis liars, then you should sit this one out.
     
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    This is so out there.
    He could've said he hit Schmeling with his hardest punch, and that would've been totally acceptable.

    Louis had been given instruction to mind his actions early in his career. In the 30's. He ended his career at a much different time, ten years before Ali was dancing over opponents. Pure nonsense, garbage logic. Zero boxing related analysis, just some gossipy low quality drivel.
     
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  12. DaveKrieg

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    Right George Foreman had stamina problems because he got tired in one fight? Typical moron logic. Based on your logic Ali had chin problems since various 180 pound guys hurt or knocked him down.

    Besides getting tired against Ali who else did he get tired against? Don't say Jimmy Young because he suffered a head stroke against Young.
     
  13. GordonGarner65

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    Its all relative.
    He gassed when he fought guys who could box and who he didnt blow away.
    Twice in your prime is too often for a great fighter ? He was also lucky that Lyle collapsed just before he did.
     
  14. DaveKrieg

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    Cute story. He got tired 1 time in his prime. Lol he knocked out Peralta a top 10 fighter at the time in the 10th and in their first fight he went 10 and didn't get tired.

    So yeah lets use some more of your logic. Lewis got tired against Rahman so he has horrible stamina too. Wlad got tired against Purritty and Brewster so they must have horrible stamina. Wait nobody told you that yet and you are on of those people who will only believe something once somebody else told you right?

    You probably still believe Foreman lost to Young because of Jimmy's boxing skills right? Not the fact that Gil Clancy said Foreman didn't listen to him by coming to Puerto Rico to get used to the high humidity and instead of going to the KO like he told Foreman to do he toyed with Young.

    But since you aren't smart enough to check out stuff yourself and will only believe what you are told you will never find the truth in life.
     
  15. GordonGarner65

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    Quite a wise ass for a new guy arent you.
    Your'e clearly a Foreman Fanboy who's given himself a new name
    Heard all this crap about Foreman before.
    The man was horribly overated.