We're not talking about "those guys", just Wilder. It's not a vague rumor or hearsay started by some trolls. James Ali Bashir who watched those sparring sessions firsthand said wilder got dropped. So did his nutritionist who posts on here. Are you calling them liars? How do you know that every sparring session is taped? You don't. Lets's just assume for arguments sake they are. What would compel the Klitschko camp to release said footage? Just to soothe the curiosity of some guy on a boxing forum? Why is it so hard for you to accept that Wilder got put down? These sparring sessions happened 4-5 yrs ago, when Wlad still had his timing and reflexes and Wilder was...well..what he was. I'll apply occams razor here and say that Wilder did get dropped instead of some grand conspiracy to slander his reputation.
You said Wilder pretty much got his ass kicked and Joshua did very well against Wlad. Why are you so sure that this happened? There's always two sides to the story and we haven't heard Wilders side.
My thing is he said Joshua did very well against Wlad and that Wilder got dropped and pretty much taken to the woodshed. And then he's asking why it's so hard to believe that, lmao.
thats not what malik scott said bro ......he said aj 3 yrs ago was beating wlad in sparring ....and that was 3 yrs ago
And you take Malik Scotts word as gospel? The same Malik Scott that took a dive against his good friend Beyoncé Wilder?
There is someone that used to come to this site now and then who saw it happen. I have a quote from that person. I used to do some work for Klitschkos, for fan clubs and finally American boxing site, Klitschko.com, not the one that is up now, it's not very good, but we really had a great site. We even had a Klitschko meeting at ESB chat room years ago with Kernitski, Vitali was going to come here with him...................and yes, there used to be a fantastic boxing chat room at ESB...................................we combined two Klitschko fan clubs together, I was in touch the night Vlad was drugged, and yes, he was drugged, refer to the Judd letter which I have posted here several times. Vitali used an article I wrote at Klitschko.com come years ago, I was flattered...............I have signed boxing gloves signed by Vitali and Vlad, pictures signed by Dimitrenko, Klitschkos, etc., I even once had Vlad's e-mail address which I never gave out, so many female fans were wild about Vlad, when they did get his e-mail, Vlad had to change it............. I just did what my job was, never bothered them, but knew what was going on....................Vlad did knock Wilder down with a jab, flattened him with a left hook, yes, there were witnesses, Vlad beat Wilder from one side of the ring to the other, no contest.....................they were good to Wilder though................Vlad also outclassed Joshua, I think taught him a lot, notice that Vitali said if Vlad is focused the fight will be easy, that is the reason he said that, he knows. Age should not be a factor, Vlad never gets out of shape, neither does Vitali. I would bet money on Vitali knocking Wilder out right now, although Vitali has not fought in a long time, afterall, Vitali is now the mayor of the 8th largest city in Europe, Kiev. He is too busy working hard for the people of Ukraine, trying to protect Ukraine from Putin and Putin's puppet Trump.............I also have a picture of Vlad and Boente at Ukrainian church after Vlad lost his fight, Boente was holding a written letter I wrote about that fight to him, given to him in person. I never gave up on Vlad, never, not once..............he is looking good right now, that is from some pictues, not seen him doing much, but he is well defined, in good fighting condition and the fight is not until April 29th. Few know how good Vlad really is, his right hand is very strong, left hook shocking, double jab, hook of the jab, he does have an uppercut and can fight on the inside. I have all his fights on Video, all of Vitali's as well. Vlad does not not have a glass chin, Joshua knows how good Vlad is, so he will have many doubts in his mind about April 29th, don't forget, Vlad won the gold medal in Atlanta, GA, back in 1996, he also won the military championships, International amateur championships, etc., really good fighter. Vlad has an offense, really good one, he has balance, footwork, timing, everything, and yes stamina/defense. I know why he lost to Fury, and am certain he would have knocked Fury out in the rematch, Fury knew that also, at one time Fury was in camp with Steward, not for long, but he was there.............Will Vlad beat Joshua? I would not be surprised if he does, could very well be a knockout, but Vlad can improvise, he can adjust, TKO, KO, or UD......................this is a heavyweight fight, so anything can happen, but Vlad is up for this fight, he knows what he is up against, if Vlad wins, Wilder will not fight him, nor will Wilder fight Joshua................I warned about Corrie Sanders, posted it here at ESB years ago before the fight. Vlad did not train for that fight, did not properly prepare, he made no excuses, but Vlad did not lose to Brewster..............he was drugged, read the JUDD letter...................Vlad just finally wanted to move on..........................Spokoinoi Noche...............