Does Joe Louis stand the test of time?

I appreciate the analysis Galv.

But Joe Louis was not a plodder.
Neither was Baer.

Pre-youtube era myths.

 

Louis wasn't a plodder? Um yeah, he most certainly could be called that based on his movement. This is the exact reason he struggled with many guys who used movement on him. Even some of the big Louis fan on this site, have listed his movement, or lack there of, as a weakness in his game; and well, because it was, and to say otherwise is being disingenuous

 

imo Your thinking style is of low quality. You don't seem to be putting much effort and it annoys me.
So for that reason, I'm out.

 

Lol... You don't seem to have the slightest clue what you're talking about. Literally. This is why on several occasions you've been called out on your inability to use logic and reason with what your viewing. You simply spout flowery language that is of no use, then when called to explain in more detail, you use more flowery hyperbole with no substance. It's this fundamental lack of critical thinking that often times leads you here; where you'll make statements like this about Joe Louis. Watch some film and you'll see, if he struggled, it was with movement. It was his biggest weakness. But Hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good narrative.

 

why do you keep talking **** about me.
You here for boxing or for me.

Clearly you don't agree with me. And you don't have the capacity to have a rational discussion about it.
So get off my nuts, damn.

 

I picked a random Louis fight.
Louis vs. Farr. Round 13.

https://streamable.com/dawqc

Constantly on his toes, shifting weight between front and back foot. Can quickly leap in and out.
This isn't plodding.

Pre-youtube era myths.

 

Holy double standards Batman!! You literally talk **** to me and say "my thinking is of low quality", when I didn't make it personal. However, once you did and insulted me, and I respond in kind, you come back with the above. Double standards and hypocrisy for the loss. Next time keep your insults away from your keyboard and you won't get back a response you will cry about. Jesus

 

Because you came at me doofus.
This is like arguing with a crazy bum on the street.

Ok, here. Can you point me to a video example of Joe Louis plodding?
And not the 137 year old version.

 

Louis has and always will stand the test of time for me, he was a fighting machine.

 

Moron, "coming at you" doesn't equal me disagreeing with what you're saying, which is what I did. Under your definition of "coming at you", people would be doing so all the time on here, when if you'd ask them if that's what they are doing, they'd laugh. Literally. I never came at you, you did that to me kiddo; then again, I've seen you interpretation of rap lyrics, so there may be a disconnect there.

 

Yup, never argue with the bum.

 

Lol @ you not seeing the obvious. I genuinely don't believe you. Will respond with more later.

 

So what was he? He used slow movements to what his opponent gave him and those who used off beat footwork THEN ( common now )confused him so much he found it puzzling when his opponent didn't stand still for him to measure. I havent studied Baer that in depth but those guys werent used to moving fighters ,they just werent. Baer moved more but he was not fundamentally sound,Buddy also knocked louis out of the ring,neuither Baer actually threw decent jabs to set up their height or style ...which mainly was a wild brawling,which worked THEN.

 

Plodding is when you rest your weight and lazily take steps. Like moving around, but not pushing off the ground.
Louis does the opposite. He is always using balance, shifting weight back and forth between the legs, and has spring in his step. It's the opposite of plodding. .

https://streamable.com/dawqc
Farr is moving really well for round 13 too.
They're both light on their feet. Their bodies changing directions sharply as one unit.

I also haven't studied Buddy Baer in depth, but I have just finished watching all the footage on Max Baer.
He was a great boxer. Really smart, relaxed, brutal slugger. He definitely had a really hard jab, and at time was out jabbing primo. If you want to see Baer at his best, watch the Carnera fight. It's a wild ride.\

Plodding is more like this
https://streamable.com/d6pge
https://streamable.com/r99kf

 

Ironically, the people who are most dismissive of the old timers based on film are often the worst at analysing film.

They can watch a fight and miss everything of significance!