Andre Ward: Too much criticism, not enough credit?

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  1. KurtisJG

    KurtisJG New Member banned Full Member

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    Does Andre Ward receive enough credit for what he has achieved?

    I think that if you've won a Gold Medal, won a super 6 tournament and unify the division during the process, moved up and challenged a tough and good boxer in Kovalev - You've had quite a successful career!

    Yes his style is ugly, but this is boxing and there are plenty of styles. His style makes him very awkward and his ring IQ is up there with the best.

    People seem to dig into his wins as much as they can until they find an excuse for the victory however i understand Kovalev was a controversial decision and majority believe Ward lost..
     
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  2. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This....fighters tend to be appreciated more when there best days are behind them. Look at the love for Bhop towards the end rather than during his middleweight days.

    Wards style can be ugly... but he's a real scientist in the ring... When you look at his list of wins its fantastic. Kessler, Froch Kovalev - top tier guys and he only really had trouble with one of them. Even behind the A level there are some good wins like Bika and Allen Green. If it wasn't for his lay off id say he was the number 1 fighter lbs for lbs
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    His style is boring but his mentality is absolutely second to none.

    Fought everyone at SMW and has back to back fights with the most feared LHW on the planet.
     
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  4. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would give him more credit if he opted to 'box' more than hug. He has great defense, is a thinking fighter, great speed and timing but he fights in such a dirty way it comes across as he is hiding his true talent.

    Also he avoids slick fighters such as Andre Dirrell which I thought would have been a 50/50 fight at 168 during the super six.
     
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  5. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He didn't fight Bute or Dirrell. Most feared LHW is Beterbiev and has been for the last two years. The only one that is scared of Kovalev is Chickenson. No one wants to go near Beterbiev after what he did to Cloud.
     
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  6. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ward, great fighter and great guy. **** the haters.
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    There's billions of men he hasn't fought. I was on about the elite fighters.

    Beterbiev doesn't have any elite victories yet he's still prospect level. Kovalev was the premiere LHW even if he never faced the actual champion.
     
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  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cloud? Lmmfao...
     
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  9. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bute...!!!??? Lmfao
     
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  10. Drachenorden

    Drachenorden Active Member Full Member

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    Ward is a nuisance.
     
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  11. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Won gold medal, won super six, faced world champon at lw and ko:d him. Retires for 2 years, then faces n#1 p4p and beats him in a close fight.
     
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  12. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Ward is surely a great guy. After all, he dragged a man dying of cancer through every court in the land. He is truly a remarkable person.
     
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  13. testez

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    not my favorite fighter by a long mile.. but i do respect and apreciate his skills and acomplishments.

    it shouldnt be just hate/love.
     
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  14. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beterbiev is nowhere near as feared as Kovalev, not at all.
    As far as fear goes, none of the top 4 LHW's are afraid to
    fight each other.
     
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  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There was nothing boring about the style he employed vs Kovalev.
     
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