a challenger who got knocked down and didn't do enough damage to capture the belt. some fans are changing boxing definition to- "hit and not get hit" instead of the basic of making the more number of damaging and solid legal hits. defense is just part of the game but what is scored are the hits like the goal shots in basketball where defense is just employed to prevent the opponent from shooting or making a good hit in boxing.
No matter what happends from this point onwards haters will cling to **** as far back as the kessler fight. People complain about the best not fighting eachother but when they finally do, people dont give them credit. GEE I WONDER WHY ITS SO HARD TO GET A MATCHUP LIKE THIS MADE.
Surely that means 25 - 20% scored for Ward so surely they would be adamant he won, just as the 75-80% are adamant Kovalev won.
Because fighters like Floyd Mayweather who turned boxing on it's head and helped influence and encourage the a/b side nonsense after becoming obsessed with padding up his record just so he could can that he retired unbeaten. It then diluted down to the fans where they became equally obsessed with how much fighters were earning through the percentages of the splits. It's no longer whether the fighter is ready and good enough to deserve to fight the champ, it's now a question of if the fight will sell enough ppv, how many losses the fighter has on their record and who deserves the larger portion of the split. Ward has carried on the stupid blueprint after being influenced by Mayweather, short changing his opponents and harping on about needing every contract to ''make sense'' in his favour.
Right. But although the majority isn't always right (otherwise the earth would still be flat), if most saw one guy win and all the numbers point in that direction as well, it usually means that the vocal minority has an agenda for it.
That would only be the case if it was impossible to find 7 rounds which could be scored for Ward. I don't think it had a clear winner, i think all the numbers indicate that. The fact it's caused so much controversy indicates that also. The fact is that Ward did emerge victorious and there is a lot of debate as to who deserved the victory. The best case scenario in that situation is we have a rematch and thankfully that's exactly what has happened.
It isn't like Matthysse vs Alexander in which you really had to give a clear Matthysse round to Devon for him to win, but you still have to keep scoring close ones for Ward it in this case, and as the official judges have shown, actually score a Kova round for Ward at the point of no return.
Close rounds is the key here. There were so many close rounds that claiming it a robbery is pointless imo. Especially since the rematch has actually been scheduled now.
Who is the most? You mean the GGG fanbase who hate all fighters from a certain demographic? The majority of people calling robbery for this fight has an agenda. Just like you. You're one of these posters who love certain fighters but I see hating on almost every black one. Kind of funny how you're crying about people having an agenda, or having a bias. The same can be said about people who had Ward schooling Kovalev. It was a close fight. I wouldn't mind going round by round with you, where I can point out the best punches landed by Ward, and you can point out the best punches by Kovalev. I hear this bs about how Kovalev was landing the "harder punches". Yes in round 1, and 2 he was clearly landing the harder punches, but no way was this consistent throughout the fight. And for the record, I don't think everyone who said Kovalev was robbed has an agenda. One of my favorite boxing channels is by this guy called naota. He had Kovalev winning the fight, and Jacobs beating GGG. Both of these were close fights, I thought Jacobs beat GGG more clear than Ward/Kovalev beat each other. Boxing is such a subjective sport when it comes to scoring though. That's why you know the majority of people who are going hysterical about a robbery either hate Ward, or picked Kovalev before the fight. Note I said MAJORITY.
Robney was one of the guys saying Ward would NEVER fight Kovalev, then he called a robbery, then he started crying about how Ward would NEVER give Kovalev a rematch. Some of these guys really have no shame.
Agreed. However, those saying Ward "schooled" Kovalev are clearly showing bias. You can make the case for a Ward win, due to a number of very close rounds, along with about 25% of fans, but not that it was a schooling.
25% of fans? Where are you getting this number from? It's a made up fictional number, which is irrelevant either way. I see WAY less people saying Kovalev got schooled by people with an agenda, than the usual suspects who hate every boxer from a certain demographic calling robbery. Like all you have to do is go to the post history of these certain people who are saying Kovalev got clearly robbed, it was 9-3, it wasn't competitive etc. You can say the same about people who said Kovalev got schooled, but I rarely see this.
I just quoted a number from earlier in the thread, I.e. about 25% thought Ward won. Far less thought it was a schooling of course, apologies if this wasn't clear. I agree basically, it's quite similar to those saying GGG schooled Jacobs. Both were close fights.