How Do You Beat Loma

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have to out bomb Loma, lightweight might be difficult
     
  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma has some of the best footwork I've ever seen , puts himself in great positions.I agree, he figures his man out then takes him apart.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

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    Greatness has no meaning as it's an arbitrary concept. It usually means a combination of resume achievement and skillset. For me the weighting is firmly in favour of the latter.

    If i was to show someone a fight of Roberto Duran's that highlights how spectacular he was, i would choose the hard fought win over Sugar Ray Leonard over the rubber match thrashing of Dear Jesus.

    If someone's asks me what is Loma's best victory so far is say GRJ. If someone rewords that question asking what is Loma's best performance, my answer isn't going to change.

    The only debate there for me is if someone turns round and says "Walter's spanked Donaire and Darchinyan which is much better than beating Johnny Gonzalez" I'd be tempted to concede upon that point but I'd be more likely to say he was not in his best division and was inactive in comparison to GRJ who went on to beat the man arguably number 1 in his division.

    If Joshua grinds out victory against Wlad and scores a come from behind KO in the 11th, that shits all over every one of his non competitive demolition jobs.

    Floyd has has many better victories than Corrales but that win is amongst his top 2 at the weight class in question. Loma's win over Sosa is not amongst his top 2 at the weight class in question.
    Floyd destroyed a p4p rated belt holder who was the favourite in the fight and who would go on to again have big big victories in the division years after. Loma has destroyed Sosa who hasn't really achieved much other than a top ten ranking. If this man goes on to beat someone of the level of Casamayor then let's compare the two victories.

    If i show someone a video if Floyd smacking Gatti around they'll ask how good Gatti was, now i could bull**** and say "amazing, he was actually the champion that night" or i could be more honest and say "completely mismatched, a fight that was more even was this one against Pacquiao".

    Walter's had already schooled Sosa prior to this night and had smacked around two bonafide great fighters. That's a better victory to nail your hat on. I always felt Walters just came for the payday but atleast that victory has substance to it.
     
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  4. Manfred

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    No offense taken but I beg to differ. Regardless of how Loma starts, when he does start it's the same strategy and the same moves. His style worked fine in all his fights except the Salido fight. Instead of making adjustments, he just gutted it out and it costed him. How much figuring did it take for Sosa, Rocky, or even Russell who was really a novice when you compare his experience against Loma's. Loma is blessed with two attributes. His speed and his stamina. His ability to adjust his style or reconfigure his punch selection has yet to be seen.
     
  5. Manfred

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    Actually this is not a comparison between Mayweather and Loma. By doing that you automatically let me know where your head is at. If you wanna get into that we can but I am talking strictly about what I see in Loma. As for the ref situation,it's not his job to stop fighting for purpose of correcting the ref. That's his corners job.
     
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  6. Cafe

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    Lomachenko does adjust in ways, you'll notice every fight he starts slow measuring his opponents and once he figures out the opponent then he starts piling on the pressure.
     
  7. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    But yeah, Lomachenko isn't really the kind of boxer who's gonna chance his style during the fight, he's got a more rigid approach rather than someone like say Crawford who's more versatile. It's not really that much of a problem though since guys have to adjust to Lomachenko not the other way around most of the time.
     
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  8. Manfred

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    Nothing wrong with what he is doing at this point. He doesn't have to change the way he fights just for the sake of it. My contention is that when conditions and circumstances dictate that he make adjustments in his boxing strategy, is he capable of doing that. Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. I just wanna see it before I crown him p4p the best fighter out there. I am not comparing him to any other fighter, my statement is part of my criteria. If you see it different then I'm cool with that. We just talking boxing.
     
  9. TLClives

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    This post is ignorant in so many levels. Lol at Loma not being able to adjust his style.
     
  10. dantedlane

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    So would diff game plans thru the fight be a diff maker
     
  11. dantedlane

    dantedlane Active Member banned Full Member

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    Loma can adjust but don't you mean the quote n not post
     
  12. dantedlane

    dantedlane Active Member banned Full Member

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    So if guys adjust to loma then you'd see his true versatility, Crawford isn't as good as ppl say lol lololol he really isnt
     
  13. dantedlane

    dantedlane Active Member banned Full Member

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    Gatti was 35 when he fought Floyd,so was Mosley n baldomir and Dela hoya etc etc Judah was 33
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    Don't think you meant to quote me then buddy as that doesn't relate to my post.
     
  15. Manfred

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    Show me any fight were he adjusted or stfu.