How can any boxing fan dislike Lomachenko?

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I really enjoy Lomachenko's style but I do think he's being a bit overrated. Ratings are subjective but it would be silly to discount resume from pound-for-pound. How you look is secondary to who you beat. Anyone can look great against a certain level. Loma has been facing the best in his division but he can't be skyrocketed above people with better resumes just because he uses angles well and taunts the likes of Sosa like a matador. When he dismantles Mikey Garcia like Rigondeaux did Donaire, then we can talk about surpassing Ward/Kovalev, Gonzales, Crawford.
     
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  2. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    But, I bet you wanted to see a fighter get beat because of his fans!
     
  3. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Good fighter but needs to avenge Salido. To be fair Salido gave him a beating.
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Salido gave him a beating?!
    That means you're either trolling or you haven't seen the fight at all.
     
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  5. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I can understand this viewpoint, but not with regards to Crawford. Crawford hasn't fought the better opposition than Loma nor in the special circumstances, nor has he looked as impressive against them (despite looking incredible). If Loma put in a performance now like Crawford did against Ricky Burns, people would not be as impressed with Loma.
    When people rank Loma very high on the P4P, it's because it does mean something that he's fighting top guys within a few fights.
    Michael Conlan is 25, Loma was 25 when he turned pro. Conlan has been through two Olympic cycles like Loma. No one can reasonably assert that Conlan beating top fighters X, Y, Z is just as great as beating them after having had 10 professional fights adjusting to the professionals against lesser men - the former is definitely the greater feat. Loma has skipped the adjustment period and has been learning on the job whilst fighting the best - that is a situation worth note.

    Postol is a top fighter but I don't see him on a completely different class to Walters on an H2H level. A tiny framed, 135lb (therefore mediocre version) of Gamboa is at best a 'good' fighter. At 130, if he still has something left, he's very good. If Crawford-Gamboa were truly the same size, the outcome of the first 5 rounds could've been different.

    Of course Loma is a little overrated because you hearing claims from some of us saying he's at least a Tier II TBE level fighter :lol: - completely unproven in that regard but we go with it anyway.

    Edit: PS I have him P4P no.3, but can understand him being no.4. The loser of Kovalev-Ward will make Loma no.2 or no.3
     
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  6. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Stop projecting your own insecurities onto others.
     
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  7. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Loma is great. It's not necessary to compare him with past great at present.
    He is carving his legacy by taking tough challenges, a rare breed. Let things unfold naturally.
     
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  8. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Has everybody forgotten the Salido fight??
     
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  9. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Only Rigo didn't 'dismantle' Donaire. He stopped engaging after Donaire knocked him down and then proceeded to throw an extremely low punch output while circling the ring with his back to the ropes. You can't 'dismantle' someone when throwing a very low volume of punches. It simply doesn't work that way.
     
  10. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Foh. He dismantled him you ****en oxymoron.
     
  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    He didn't engage and threw very few punches getting knocked down in the process. That isn't a 'dismantling' A dismantling is what Calzaghe did to Lacy.
     
  12. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    You didn't see the fight.
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I watched it. It was a very mediocre fight with little action. One guy chasing and the other not wanting to engage.
     
  14. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    No you didn't. Rigo made him look like a monster and Donaire was the one who stopped trying later in the fight. Foh. Imma almost the right so you can now watch the fight. And using Calzaghe and Lacy as dismantling is hilarious.
     
  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Rigo is so reluctant to engage nobody wants to show his fights. That is how bad he is.