Lomachenko, Usyk, Gvozdyk

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  1. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Three Ukrainan fighters in their prime. What can they achieve within the next few years? Who do you see beating them in/around their weight classes? Who is the biggest threat to them and what can be the biggest fights?

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    They are the real representatives of Ukrainan boxing, since the Klitschko brothers were born in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. A new era beginns, an unknown boxing school, unknown boxing training methods.

    Many people want to see Usyk fighting in HW but I don't think he's made for that weight.
     
  2. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Kovalev > Gvozdyk=Beterbiev is my gut feeling. I don't know where I want to put Ward in that equation. I don't like Ward's chances against Beterbiev, but I think he could give Gvozdyk some problems. I don't have enough information right now to have any real confidence in that though. LHW is my favorite division right now because of those guys, Bivol, Joe Smith Jr, Stevenson (I think he's on his way out) Barrera, and Shabranskyy who I want to see rebound from his recent loss.

    Usyk vs Gassiev is a fight I need to see happen. Usyk is the better boxer of the two, but with Gassiev's power I don't want to count him out. If he lands cleanly at any point in the fight it could change the dynamic completely.

    Lomachenko will go on to do great things. My only worry for him is his age.
     
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  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    1. Beterbiev
    2. Kovalev
    3. Gvozdyk
     
  4. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    1.Beterbiev
    2. Gvozdyk
    3. Ward
    4. Kovalev
    5. Stevenson
     
  5. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Hey, Usyk was born In Crimea, Russia. What part of that don't people understand. God I get tired of having to go over this over again.

    Now if Usyk wants to be a Russian reprsenting and fighting out of the Ukriane like how the Klitschkos use to consider themselves German acctually, thats acceptable.
     
  6. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is not true. The Klitschko brothers only had a German trainer, deceased Fritz Sdunek. That's why they lived in Germany, after signing with Universum.
    Due to the lack of German talent, they were made into stars in Germany. As far as I know, there were plans to give them citizenship like Sturm, Huck, Michalczewski etc. got but they refused.
     
  7. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    They changed their names to sound more German actually. Vladimir Vladimirovich Klychko Jr. changed his name to Wladimir Wladimirowitsch Klitschko. Their name went from Klychko to Klitschko when they started representing Germany.
     
  8. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I love all 3. Highly skill with no trash talk. Definitely root for them to go all the way.
     
  9. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk is perfectly clear that he wants to be Ukrainian not Russian. Crimea was under Ukranian control when Usyk was born, and Usyk is ethnically Ukrainian too.

    Here's his position:

    "Usyk is a native of Crimea, the peninsula annexed by Russia last year. Even though his public persona strongly contrasts with the Russian identity pushed by the new Crimean authorities, he refuses to leave his home city of Simferopol or to take Russian citizenship."

    What's so hard to understand about that?
     
  10. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Poteto potato lol...
    Pardon my ignorant Terry.
    For most people we don't really bother. You can even group me from Aus and Kiwiman together, I wouldn't mind at all lol.
     
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  11. Octolony shore

    Octolony shore Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lomachenko might be the most talented boxer I have seen, his footwork is incredible. I don't see anyone challenging him at super feather or lightweight, the fight I want to see is crawford vs lomachenko at super lightweight.
     
  12. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Skies the limit for these guys.
     
  13. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Joe Smith Jr stops everyone including Gvozdyk, Ward better retire after Kovalev.

    Loma and the rest of 135 gives us the nostalgic feeling we had when Barrera, Pacquiao, Marquez and Morales were fighting each other. (Yes ,I know they fought at lower classes, I mean the general round robin.)

    Usyk won't get any credit until he goes to Heavyweight like fighters of the past. So don't cry respect for him when cruiserweight has never been a beloved division.
     
  14. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I would too but it's not fair. Crawford is too big, without a catch-weight, for Loma and him and his manager and Jim Lampley have said it clearly. If he did try and got KO'D people would not give Crawford credit for smashing a small man even if he asked for it.
    Crawford can barely get credit for Gamboa, remember that fight?
     
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  15. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why do you hold Smith Jr so high? I dont understand it. The guy's powerfull but thats it really IMO. He looks so raw and the skill level gap will be his downfall once he challenges the big boys at 175. He might improve though if he gets a good coach and focuses 100% on boxing, but not very much. He might've been lucky against Fonfara, who's really not a top guy at 175. I'm not even gonna talk about the BHop fight. One thing Smith has, he seemed very very hungry in there, that help him, but after a few good checks, who knows, maybe he'll change.

    I really have to see him against a good top 175 guy, like Barrera, Gvozdyk or Eleider Alvarez, before I can consider him a threat for the top dogs
     
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