Duva: Request for 'Neutral' Judges for Ward-Kovalev Denied by Ward

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  1. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a more in depth answer Duva gave some media

    In this media scrum with Sergey Kovalev and his promoter Kathy Duva, Duva was asked if any effort made to get at least one international judge on the panel for the rematch after Kovalev suggested home country bias in the first outing. Here's how Duva responded:

    "In Nevada the rule is you go with what the commission says. I asked Ward's side, because I thought it would be best for everyone involved, that there would be no question, if we could go together to the commission and ask them to appoint some non-American judges. Ward said 'absolutely not'. In fact I'm told there was a comment made about 'well everyone hates Americans all over the rest of the world so I want American judges.' So I guess he figures that gives him an edge.

    "Personally, in the United States, because every state has its own commission, it's like all different countries, I kinda saw Nevada as neutral ground actually. And maybe I was naive but we're gonna trust the commission isn't going to want there to be any controversy next time and it's up to them to decide how they want to handle it."
     
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  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I've never seen this done before and the commission would likely be reluctant to do it because it implies US-based judges can't be neutral, and every foreign fighter would start requesting foreign judges despite fighting in a US venue.

    Anyone remember the Ward-Froch cards? The 2 American judges had it a close fight while the British guy had it closest for Ward. People overestimate national bias or pride in an individual sport like boxing and a low key fighter like Ward.
     
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  3. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And Ward can get only American judges without Kovalev's consent. Its not that he choses so, not at all, its the commission where the fight takes place that handles all this.

    But I already saw other rematches, specifically in England, where one promoter ( the foreign side) wanted neutral judging and the British side agreed. And they brought in foreign judges. Same guy won if I remember correctly, but at least it was more transparent and they didnt want no excuses and controversy the 2nd time.
    I think its how it should be done for this rematch. And may the best man win.
     
  4. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But why reject the request? I dont understand it. The commission will pick those judges, not Duva.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The fighters absolutely cannot pick the judges. Poor move by Kovalev.

    Let the commission decide who judges.
     
  6. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If both promoters are on board, the commission can't really denie it. They're the ones paying for the event, so it doesnt have anything to do with the commission slamming the US based judges. They will just do what both promoters asked. And its only done if both parties agree, so not every foreign fighter that has a bout in the US can ask that kind of thing.

    I've seen it in Germany too
     
  7. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You dont understand man. The commission picks the judges, always. Not the promoters. But they can ask for neutral judges, if both of the promoters are on the same page. Nothing wrong here.

    I'm very surprised so many of you are against neutral judges. It dont make any sense
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    I wouldn't say you don't make any sense, you just have a differing point of view.
     
  9. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a typo. I just corrected it. Should've been "it dont"
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    Ahhhh
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I think the commission can deny it anyway, who pays for it doesn't influence their standard procedures. The integrity of their institution is at stake. That may sound laughable in boxing but it would be a big step in the wrong direction for fighters to be able to dictate judges merely on the fact they are paying for the event.
     
  12. Stallion

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    She might or might not be looking for an excuse in advance, but wouldn't it be logical, considering the controversial decision of the judges in the first fight, to at least insist on having neutral judges for the rematch?

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  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO !! just look at what happened on May 1 & 2 2015 & the aftermath ? Lppk at ANY Mayweather fight in Vegas ?
    All Duva asked for was to have NEUTRAL FAIR UNBIASED JUDGES !!!! As we all know, if were are honest, that just don't happen in Vegas
     
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  14. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    No, she doesn't. Duva is full of ****. Why didn't Team KANvolev ask for "neutral" judges in the first fight?
     
  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    That's all they can do, trust the commission. Ward isn't picking the judges or filtering it to solely American judges. He's letting the commission decide. Unless there's something I'm missing where Ward demanded it only be American judges. Duva is not exactly a neutral source.