Could 09-10 Pacquiao have beaten Billy Joe Saunders?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I understand what you're saying, but since he looked half decent (at least somewhat close to his 126-130 peak) at 147 and 150 there was probably more for him to go. I doubt he could have lasted very long against David Haye, but that is quite a big jump. 168 is the highest I could see him going.
     
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  2. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, Pacman vs Groves, Smith and even Martin Murry would end well. Christ, even shot to hell AA would brutally knock out Pacman.
     
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Like I said, you didn't read what I wrote correctly. I said:

    "Pac was too small. He never fought at 154 and never fought a legit match above 147. BJS would likely have stopped him early and more brutally than JMM4."
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...so, how good a SMW do you see him beating? A
    Run of the mill belt holders? Elites? ATG's?

    We talking Charles Brewer, James DeGale, or Mikkel Kessler here?
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    WAIT! What? :lol:

    So you can see Pacquiao having had fights with guys like Calzaghe and Ward?
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    If Pac and his people really believed they had a shot at 160, he would have challenged Sergio at 154, and Sergio would have been doing a happy dance.

    :smoking:
     
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  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Sometimes OP seems like a decent poster, then he posts **** like this and his credibility takes a hit.

    1 step forward, 2 steps back.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Pacquiao vs. Calzaghe is basically two mirror images, so yeah, I'd call it 50-50.

    I mean, they're both...um...fast with their hands.

    And uh...both professional boxers.

    Both male.

    Both...not black, Arabic or Pacific Islander.

    Both have ten fingers and toes.

    Yeah...they're basically the same. I can't think of any reason this wouldn't be seen as competitive.
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    There are no elite's let alone any ATG's currently fighting at 168 pounds. It's going through a down period at the moment. Mikkel Kessler if given 6-9 months to train right now could have a chance of actually being the man even at this point. That's the current state of the division right now.
     
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  10. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do think Pacman could move to 160lbs and beat Chavaz Jr to be fair.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...and that's even the bum knee version.
     
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  12. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm trying to imagine prime RJJ vs 140lb Pacman in my head and can't stop smiling.
     
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  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's what I'm talking about. What is a prime Pac fought the same Chavez that fought Martinez? Pacquiao could actually win.
     
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  14. tinman

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    Yes I think Sergio would have stopped Pacquiao, but Martinez was an elite fighter and a lot bigger. BJS or Chavez Jr. Pac can take that.
     
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  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :lol:

    The Lt. Dan Shuffle!
     
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