The Rings Top 20 2017 All Time Heavyweights!

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The latest list of the top 20 heavyweights of all time from the Ring Magazine.
    The poll consisted of trainers ,writers, boxers,matchmakers,historians.Here is the list.
    1.Ali
    2.Louis
    3.Johnson
    4.Marciano
    5.Holmes
    6.Dempsey
    7.Foreman
    8.Frazier
    9.Tyson
    10.Liston
    11 .Tie Holyfield &Lewis
    13. Tunney
    14.Sullivan
    15.Jeffries
    16.W Klitschko
    17.V Klitschko
    18.Corbett
    19. Bowe
    20.Fitzsimmons
    Comments?
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    wHY are Holyfield &Lewis tied.

    You can't do that.

    You can't rank Vitali higher than Bowe either
     
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    You can,and they have!
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Nothing wrong with that really. Langford and Wills are a miss. It's champions at a guess.
     
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    Those voting were.
    Trainers.
    Teddy Atlas
    Pat Burns
    Virgil Hunter
    Don Turner
    Matchmakers.
    Eric Bottjer
    Don Chargin
    Don Elbaum
    Bobby Goodman
    Ron Katz
    Mike Marchionete
    Russell Peltz
    Bruce Trampler.
    Media.
    Al Bernstein
    Ron Borges
    Gareth Davies
    Norm Frauenheim
    Jerry Izenberg
    Harold Lederman
    Dan Rafael
    Michael Rosenthal
    Historians.
    Craig Hamilton
    Steve Lott
    Don McRae
    Bob Mee
    Clay Moyle
    Adam Pollack
    Randy Roberts.
    Boxers.
    Paulie Malinaggi
    Lennox Lewis
    Mike Tyson
    Pretty heavy duty list.
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    Decent list. I'd have Lewis substancially higher and Holyfield a bit higher too but it's interesting.
     
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    Not a bad list really. I've seen some a lot lot worse. A high caliber of contributers to the poll so u can't argue to much about it. The guys there no what there talking about. Like Jt I would have put holyfield and Lewis higher. Liston and tyson higher than those two? Don't see how tyson ranks higher than holyfield.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The top 10 will always be the top 10. :cool1:
     
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    Not really too much to complain about in that list
     
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    i feel like lewis is a guy who is rated much higher amongst fans than he is amongst the media and writing fraternity.
     
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    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not a bad list at all although I would have ranked Frazier lower.
     
  12. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad needs to be moved up significantly. Foreman and Dempsey down a little.
    I read this few weeks ago and didn't care for the list although I did like seeing Pollack and Moyle as contributors, but looking at the list here a second time it's not that bad. Not sure how to place Sullivan, no film and still fought a handful of bare knuckle bouts. Bowe I would probably slide out for Schmeling.
    Reason I believe Wlad should be moved up is look at the top fighters on the list, Ali, Louis, Johnson, Marciano, Holmes, all had lengthy title reigns, tons of title fights. Dominant. Which is my criteria for all time greatness. Then Wlad gets plugged in at 16th. Reeks of the age old myth of the current dominant champ is not as good as the past dominant champ. And when reading the brief (I thought the article could of been longer) synopsis on opinions, one person said Wlad loses merit because today's top American athletes play different sports. Tired of hearing that. Boxing is global and if anything more ppl participating today on a global scale.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    So, a bunch of yanks and a sprinkling of limeys make a list and it looks like that. No surprise.
     
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  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The list seems allright but where the the hell is Norton? He beat No1 Ali and arguably beat prime No5 Larry Holmes.He belongs around 15th to 18th in my opinion.
     
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    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would rank LL 1 slightly above Holy as far as heavyweights. Holyfield however ranks significantly higher than LL in the ATGs Pound for Pound List