****Kirks Championships 2017 ****

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kirk, Dec 31, 2016.


  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Jumped the gun a little didn't I? :lol:

    I just got it up to add to later on.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Do a thread on how well Camacho and Mancini would fare in today's Lightweight Division.
     
  3. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @nellybc @DanielDimov @moparfan
    I can't see that rule either, however it is clearly in the spirit of the rules and I'm completely happy with that. Round 4 DanielDimov 10-9 KiwiMan it is, nice recovery from the KDs!
     
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  5. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Yea i can't see the rule either , but in the mini tournament it was exactly this
     
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  6. nellybc

    nellybc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WBK Championship + #No1 contender

    After 4 rounds:
    1: Bivol TKO RD 4 / 2: Indongo Wide UD / 3: Barrera TKO RD 5 / 4: Perez SD

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    Round 1: 10 - 8 / Round 2: 10 - 10 / Round 3: 10 - 8 / Round 4: 9-10

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    Round 1: 8 - 10 / Round 2: 10 - 10 / Round 3: 10 - 8 / Round 4: 10-9

    5: 4/22 - Arthur Abraham vs. Robin Krasniqi - 12x3

    DanielDimov: Abraham CLOSE UD vs Kiwiman: Abraham SD
    Nellybc: vs Pablinov:

    6: 4/22 - Tommy Langford vs. Avtandil Khurtsidze - 12x3 WBO World Middleweight Title
    DanielDimov: Khurtsidze TKO 10 vs Kiwiman: Khurtsidze TKO 11
    Nellybc: vs Pablinov:

    7: 4/22 - Zolani Tete vs. Arthur Villanueva - 12x3
    DanielDimov: Tete WIDE UD vs Kiwiman: Tete CLOSE UD
    Nellybc: vs Pablinov:

    8: 4/22 - Martin Murray vs. Gabriel Rosado - 12x3
    DanielDimov: Murray WIDE UD vs Kiwiman: Murray CLOSE UD
    Nellybc: vs Pablinov:

    9: 4/22 - Rocky Fielding vs. John Ryder - 12x3 BBBofC British Super Middleweight Title
    DanielDimov: Fielding CLOSE UD vs Kiwiman: Fielding MD
    Nellybc: vs Pablinov:

    10: 4/22 - Oscar Valdez vs. Miguel Marriaga - 12x3 WBO World Featherweight Title
    DanielDimov: Valdez WIDE UD vs Kiwiman: Valdez CLOSE UD
    Nellybc: vs Pablinov:

    11: 4/22 - Gilberto Ramirez vs. Max Bursak - 12x3 WBO World Super Middleweight Title
    DanielDimov: Ramirez TKO 9 vs Kiwiman: Ramirez TKO 10
    Nellybc: vs Pablinov:

    12: 4/22 - Jessie Magdaleno vs. Adeilson Dos Santos - 12x3 WBO World Super Bantamweight Title
    DanielDimov: Magdaleno TKO 8 vs Kiwiman: Magdalena TKO 5
    Nellybc: vs Pablinov:
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm switching to Langford UD

    And in case I missed any....
    Soro KO, Borrego KO, Fielding KO, Murray TKO. Tete KO, Valdez KO, Rmirez KO, Magdaleno KO Porter KO

    Abraham SD and Charlo SD
    Although I'm still mulling over a switch to Hatley and Krasniqi.
     
  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Abraham MD, Khurtsidze UD, Fielding UD, Soro UD, Magdaleno TKO, Valdez UD, Ramirez UD, Charlo UD, Porter TKO, Taples TKO, Ioka TKO
     
  9. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know. There are some other differences too, e.g. in the WBK if you both pick the wrong fighter it's a 10-10 round, whereas in crowning it was a win for whoever's prediction was closer.

    I do think a panel of those interested in the WBK should look at updating the rules, simplifying and clarifying certain aspects such as this. Other things to consider are:

    1. Whether we should change to a format more like Crowning, i.e. consider the results as a spectrum: Draw->SD->MD->UD close->UD wide->late KO->early KO, and:
    a. the predictions are in three groups (SD/MD/TD, UDs, KOs). If you predict the correct group and your opponent does not, you win the round.
    b. otherwise, whoever is closer wins 10-9 except for instant KOs;
    c. all decisions are closer to other decisions than KOs/TKOs and DQs.

    2. Handling of technical decisions and disqualifications. The former is always somewhat controversial, and the latter is not covered by the current rules as far as I can see. The league handles it as a KO/TKO, but do instant KOs occur from DQs?

    3. Knockdowns: KO round missed by only 1, or opponent picks the wrong fighter while you pick the correct fighter. What if both occur? Is this a double KD round, or just a 10-8? Should exact predictions on UD close / UD wide be rewarded with knockdowns, seeing that exact SD/MD/Draw predictions are instant KOs? Should predictions of SD, result MD, or vice versa, get a knockdown instead of just 10-9?

    4. It might be helpful for new competitors to have a summary of the ways to win by instant KO, which are, by my count: SD, MD, any kind of draw, exact KO round.
     
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  10. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @CST80, are you willing to enlighten us on the Langford pick?
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yeah but PP is highly respected in terms of scoring so any fights he scores couldn't be considered a robbery by the masses on ESB.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yeah, it's one he'll change soon.
     
  13. matt007

    matt007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Changing to khurtsidze KO

    Soro UD, Campbell Ko, Quigg KO, AJ KO, Tapales KO, Ioka UD, Molina KO, Mthalane UD, Nietes UD, Alvarez UD, Zambrano UD
     
  14. JordanK2406

    JordanK2406 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    soro ud, quigg tko/ko, joshua tko/ko, nietes tko/ko, zambrano ud, chavez ud, mthalane ud.
     
  15. JordanK2406

    JordanK2406 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    parker ud, lemiuex Tko/ko, gamboa tko/ko, matthysse ud, alvarez tko/ko, warrington ud, K Yafai tko/ko, G Yafai sd, C Rodriguez Tko/Ko, feigenbutz tko/ko, murata ud, G davis Tko/ko, relikh tko/ko, dirrell ud, russell tko/ko, crawford sd, inoue tko/ko, chisora ud, groves ud, brook Tko/ko.