Ali and Usyk

Wlad getting dominated by Fury obliterated the argument he'd ever have a chance against Ali.

 

This board is a think tank. If you want real answers, post this on twitter or right an article on this very topic for the public to view.

 

I agree with you on the point about modern heavy weights are a lot bigger than the heavies of the past. All the other weight divisions you can make this type of comparison. Of the 2 fighters, Usyk and Ali, who do you think would do better against a prime Tyson?

 

I am not a fan of speculation since I need a Crystal ball to determine who can win in a hypothetical matchup, Usyk is the most technical in my opinion, and will probably win a UD.

 

Against who, Ali? Prime Tyson utterly destroys Usyk. I'm lost.

 

I was being asked if either Ali or Usyk would beat Tyson, I said Usyk, but Ali could do so as well.

 

I edited my post. Prime Tyson utterly destroys Usyk. James Tillis would box circles around Usyk.

 

I dont agree, Usyk boxes Tyson's head off to a UD. But how am I supposed to know anyway unless I see these two square off in the ring, with a crystal ball forged in fairy land.

 

Wlad is old, I'm talking prime wlad. Ali was tiny compared to 6 8" Fury also. Its no comparison at all to use him in this argument unless your comparing footwork used by Fury to keep Wlad guessing and stopping him from setting to throw. Ali liked to hold and maul when close because he had no inside game, he cant do that with any of the super heavys ive mentioned previous, some even abusing him in close (lewis, Bowe). Hes fighting much bigger stronger men than himself, something he wasn't really accustomed to. When he fought guys his size with a jab they were tight affairs through out his career. These guys are bigger with great jabs themselves

 

So the earth is flat? You never seen the earth with your own eyes type deals? You don't even know who James Tillis is. Once again you guys present stuff like this to over platforms other than ESB. You will get laughed at. This is a waste of time.

 

Why dafuq would Ali need to hold Wlad? Ali fought the greatest pressure fighters EVER at the weight.

Wlad was scared shyt less to move in on Sultan , Haye and a host of others. He'd give Ali all the space he wanted to box circles around him.
Wlad could barely land a clean shot on Jennings because of a bit of basic movement. Ali is all wrong for Wlad who always needs to be set to throw punches.

 

I was being asked about Tyson before you interrupted, I wasnt talking about Tillis at all. I dont deal with hypothetical's, I need something concrete, there is nothing factual or logical about hypothetical matchups, nothing at all, I wasnt even talking to you and you pop up and start getting triggered, what the hell is wrong with you? Who cares what the average low IQ boxing fan thinks, if they laugh at me so be it. You are right, replying to you was a waste of time.

 

A rather interesting debate
I think one thing that isnt being taken in to consideration though is that this argument is based on Alis entire career whereas Usyk has only had 12 fights. Usyk has mixed at a far higher level in his first 12 fights

 

You're one of the low IQ boxing fans. You answered a hypothetical question with a stupid answer. It wasn't Usyk's IQ that scraped by Hunter, it was mostly his stamina but he boxes Tysons head off. Usyk's not making it past 3 rounds and the world is round contrary to you never being presented concrete evidence. Superman prime destroys Goku just to further own you.

 

I said I prefer NOT to deal with speculation, but in MY opinion I picked Usyk. If you think Tyson or Tillis beats Usyk, then good for you. Go off and get triggered by other random people, and stop wasting my time. The world is round, as Ive seen videos and photos of it, but even inside of Earth it looks spherical.

Go talk about Superman vs Goku in the lounge, dont bring that here you spastic.