Rewatched Pavlik Taylor. Damn Kelly could bang. Would destroy today's Middleweights.

Some of you kill me when you make **** up. Echols never put Hopkins down. Mercado knocked Hopkins down once legit, and that was because the fight was in the mountains, in an Arena that was 100 plus degrees during the fight. The second looked more like a cough or a trip.

My point was that Froch had a solid chin, not iron though. He was dropped by Taylor, and Groves, and never really faced a huge puncher. So how do you know he had an iron chin, if it never got hit by say Adonis Stevenson, whom he ducked. Andre Dirrell also had Froch doing the stanky leg.

 

If Pavlik had of stayed sober he could have done some great things in boxing. But I heard Pavlik did not want to stay in boxing for very long , he wanted to spend time with his family with his mind working well, which is commendable . I think after he beat Taylor it was mission accomplished and time for some well deserved celebration.

Last I saw Pavlik is involved in powerlifting and not that far off the state record for curling. He does his powerlifting with a club called "unbreakable". Pavlik looks strong and well over 200 pounds and not even that fat.

 

Yeah Kelly Pavlik could bang. I remember a lot of Pavlik haters saying he more just wore his opponent's down and did not have much one punch power. But he did in both hands. bazooka jab, left hook, straight right and uppercuts from hell.

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Echols did put Hopkins down but it wasnt counted
go to 4:18

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and see you are wrong again

As you can see Mercado had 2 legit KDs. Go to 24:15 and 32min

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You will see that nothing has been made up and it is you who obviously doesnt know.

Why are you talking about Froch to me? I was saying that I felt Pavlik had a decent chin.
I havent mentioned Froch.

I said about Pavlik, you disagreed because of a KD he suffered to Taylor and I gave examples of how it can happen in certain fights and as shown here, shows I am correct

 

Since when does a punch after the break count? lol. And as I stated, the temperature was 100+ degrees, and in the mountains in that Quito Arena. Mercado's punches had no effect at a normal elevation, as we saw in the rematch. Don't even try to Froch's chin on the level of Hopkins'. Froch was made to do the stanky leg, and put on his arse, under normal circumstances, and he ran from Adonis Stevenson.

 

I didnt say anything about punch before or after. I noted Hopkins got put down. You are even trying to look for further reasons. Well he also got put down by Pascal, which shows KDs happen.
Why do you keep going on about Froch? I havent mentioned Froch. this thread is about Pavlik. So once again, why do you keep bringing up Froch? Do you have a bit of an obsession?

 

Yeah when he was 85 years old. Two of the shots that dropped Hopkins in the Pascal fight were rabbit punches. Hopkins took flush power shots from Pavlik, and Tarver, as well as numerous power shots from Kovalev when he was 48 years old. Kovalev would have KO'd Froch within four or five rounds. Hopkins also took flush shots from Jones Jr, Echols, Trinidad, Allen, etc. Guys who were known as punchers, and walked through the ****. Hopkins took flush punches from bigger punchers than Froch has ever faced, and walked through them. When Froch got hit solid, he did the stanky leg or tasted canvas, and those guys weren't huge punchers.

My point being, don't try to make Froch into this iron chinned warrior. Froch was a good boxer in a weak division. He had a solid chin, but there is a reason he never fought Stevenson at 168.

 

You seem to be losing it. Why do you keep bringing Froch up to me?
You also seem to make excuses for all Hopkins KDs rather than accept that KDs happen.
Not sure what you are struggling with?

 

I was just thinking...Pavlik sure had a great chin. BHop landed bombs on Kelly and he took them all
like a man.

 

You seem perturbed that I said Froch didn't have an iron chin. 40 plus year old Hopkins was dropped legit by Pascal, Kovalev, and Smith. Younger Hopkins, went down twice in a fight at altitude in a 100 plus degree arena. Hopkins got hit in his rematch against Mercado. Nothing happened though, as it was at a normal altitude and not a sauna. Citing a sucker punch from a big puncher as an example of Hopkins getting dropped, is just a bit of trolling on your part lol. Hopkins walked through shots from big punchers like Echols, Jones Jr, Tarver, Pavlik, Kovalev, etc. Froch would have been KO'd by the same punches landing from those guys.

 

You didn't seem Taylor's fight with Ouma did you? What about his fight with Freddy Hernandez. Two small 154 pounders, who Taylor beat on, but couldn't get rid of. Ouma ate his best **** for 12 rounds no problem.

 

Good chin. Hopkins didn't seem to land much clean on the chin in that fight though. There was a lot of shoe shining and punches to the sides of the head. He did make Pavlik do the stiff leg shuffle with a slap to the temple area. Pavlik also ate Martinez's best power shots for 12 rounds as well. You aren't doing that without a good chin.

 

A lot of missed punches in that sequence, and also someone takes that when they are being hit by someone who isn't a huge puncher.