Professor Dwyer makes some good points on Klitscho v.s Joshua here!

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Is Joshua being hyped too much??

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  1. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :deal::deal::deal:
     
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  2. silencio

    silencio Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In this particular case Dwyer does make sense. At least some sense... There are some good observations as to why the WK vs AJ is quite different from the Fury fight. Of course, we will know the real story soon enough.
     
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  3. JannyG

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    Wlad gets stopped on his feet. A rain of punches come in from Joshua, Wlad freezes turns his back and gets stopped
     
  4. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This blog is spot on my thoughts exactly.if Joshua can not stop vlad early he is in deep trouble.
     
  5. Okin129

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    The most of his points are invalid , he thinks the only way to beat Wladimir Klitschko is the way Tyson Fury beat him.

    Wlad was beaten before by punchers like Sanders,Brewster and even by a journeyman like Puritty.

    Anthony Joshua won't be on his backfoot in this fight , because Wladimir won't be the aggressor , AJ is going
    forward and Wladimir needs to keep him at the distance with his jab and he needs to avoid the combination
    punches from Anthony Joshua.

    Wladimir Klitschko hasn't that much confidence in his chin , he won't go toe to toe with Anthony Joshua.

    He will try to outbox him on his backfoot.

    This Dwyer exaggerates the skills of Tyson Fury and underrates the skills and ferociousness of Anthony Joshua.
     
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  6. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It's hilarious how certain people are going on about Joshua "Destroying Wlad in a couple of rounds!" Lol!! He's not ;) And Joshua will be jab drunk by the 5th. All it will take is ONE Chambers type left hook or one Thompson type right hand and Joshua is on his face or back.
     
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  7. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    If AJ stays to the fight plan, and does not get drawn into the fight on WKs terms then he will win, WK might be old but he has wisdom and a wise team, so fight your own fight AJ.
     
  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I am curious how people who are very confident Joshua wins see the fight unfolding. Like, what is Joshua's gameplan? How does he negate Wlad's jab? How does he set up punches and not get him himself? And which prior fight shows his best use of a similar gameplan?

    I think people predicting a Joshua win are banking on Wlad just sitting there like a deer in the headlights due to old age and just getting blasted out by simple combinations. I don't think it will be that simple.
     
  9. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Well put, and that's largely what dwyer was saying. I'm leaning a bit to Wlad right now.
     
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  10. Okin129

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    Anthoy Joshua is faster and stronger than Wladimir Klitschko and in the heavyweight division , this is a huge
    advantage , even more than in the smaller divisions.

    Of course he will get hit from Wlad's jab and he can't negate his jab all the time but AJ is an explosive and fast fighter and he will get his chances to hurt Wladimir , he needs to avoid getting in the clinch with Wladimir.

    Wladimir will get in the clinch as soon as AJ tries to get in the in-fight , Wladimir is a horrible inside fighter, he
    used this technique in every fight , i have seen from him.

    Wladimir usually gets in the clinch when he is in trouble and he uses his bodyweight to make his mostly smaller opponents tired.

    His worn down opponents are getting knocked out in the late rounds after he made them tired the whole fight
    with his clinching tactics.

    He can't make a stronger and taller opponent like AJ tired by using his bodyweight in the clinch.

    Wladimir's biggest weapon's are his reach and height advantage in combination with his exceptional jab.

    He will have problems to keep AJ at the distance , because he will have a reach and height disadvantage
    in this fight.

    AJ only needs to go forward the whole fight and Wladimir will be scared to pull the trigger , because
    he doesn't have much confidence in his chin , he doesn't want to be catched with a counterpunch.

    I simply don't think that Wlad can keep AJ at the distance the whole fight and as soon as it gets in the
    in-fight , Wladimir will have huge problems , especially if he is scared to pull the trigger.

    I don't think that Wladimir changed his fighting style or his mentality. He will fight the same as ever.
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    This is exactly what I mean. This isn't a gameplan. It's just "Joshua is athletic and will beast on a scared Wlad".

    What punches is Joshua going to use?
    Is he going to parry or use head movement to avoid the jab?
    Is he going to go to the body?
    Is he going to lead or counter?
    Is he any good at feinting?
    Which Joshua fight shows the best base for a gameplan against Wlad?

    Those are the questions that need answering.
     
  12. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly. If anything.. I see Joshua freezing up and looking VERY confused early in the fight after a few good hooks off the jab and 1-2's harder than anything he's felt since Nistor rattled his brain in the ams. This isn't Martin or Whyte he's going up against :D
     
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  13. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Joshua will be viewed like Ronda Rousey soon.
     
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  14. madballster

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    What makes you think AJ is any good in the in-fight?
     
  15. Okin129

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    I think i made it very clear in my post.

    Joshua will go forward , he is going to lead and he will try to get in the mid range , he is not known for good head
    movement , he will try to parry Wlad's jab as good as he can.

    He will use his combination punching , Joshua can throw every punch in the book , he knocked opponents out with uppercuts , left hooks , right hooks ,everything you can imagine. He finishes his combinations very often with a uppercut.

    Of course , he will use body punches occasionally , but he goes mostly to the head.

    Joshua hasn't fight an opponent like Wlad before , i expect him to fight the way he always does , he sparred
    with him and he will study him a little bit in the first 2 or 3 rounds , i expect him to start slow in this fight.

    AJ only had 18 fights , i can't think of an opponent from him who resembles Wlad and this is the only
    thing i have in favour of Wladimir Klitschko.