Alexander Povetkin vs. Max Baer

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  1. reznick

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    12 Rounds

    How does classic see this one playing out?
     
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    I dont like matchups like this because boxing technique has changed so much since then, athletes train differently. Baer should in theory be a higher class of athlete but i dont think it will be good for Baer if he tries backhanding Povetkin, say what you want about modern vs old school boxing technique thats not something you want to do against Povetkin
     
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    Not really.
     
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    Ok. Plenty of backhanding and fighting with hands down, punches coming back slow and dropping/not in position today
    and plenty of modern S&C training and PEDs in the 30s.
    People dont use shifting or infight like they used to either.
     
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    Baer would lay a whooping on him
     
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    My point is that whatever Baers technical shortcomings, he got away with them in an era where the heavyweight division was stacked with technicians, much more so than today.

    He was not successful because of the era; he was successful despite the era.
     
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    Sure but all i said was i didnt like matchups like that were theyre almost a century apart because things are so different and harder to compare
     
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    He had god given reflexes, and power, and durability.

    The rest he managed to mess up, between banging starlets!
     
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    Although not as good as Baer imo, Povetkin is no slouch when it comes to skill too.
    https://streamable.com/sp683

    He has a good sense of range, although sometimes it seems like his body can't keep up with his mind.
    He is very good at using his power to create extra openings by punching through opponents arms in exchanges.

    He can also be deceptive with his short steps. Like Bowe, every once, twice, or three times a round a breaks into an explosive attack that's hard to see coming.
     
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    Baer would probably quit after povetkin lands a few vicious combos
     
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    Povetkin is several levels above in skill and a formidable puncher with excellent and varied output. He stops Baer.
     
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    This analysis by gif is the new fake news.

    Suddenly Carnera and Baer are the heavyweight predecessors of Napoles and Mayweather.