[GIF] Carnera KO Sharkey (Slow Mo)

Now this is just plain dumb and you should know this. Frazier legs were reacting to the shot, the shot didnt lift off his feet, this is what happens when a truly heavy puncher hits you it short circuits your legs and they flex. But after practicing 20yrs you should know that.
Ever hear the saying "he who laffs last, laffs best.

 

I dispute that Sharkey was the better fighter in 1933, regardless of how one views the two over their entire careers. Sharkey lost his next two fights to Loughran and Levinsky, Carnera victims. Loughran defeated Sharkey just a few months before losing badly to Carnera.

 

imo it was one of the fixed fights of that time Boxed Ears

 

Ever heard the saying, " he who laughs last never got the joke in the first place!"

 

This is my reaction also. It certainly looks like the glove hit Sharkey. It doesn't look like any kind of "swinging" blow to me, but an uppercut.

 

Not neccessarily, every ko is different. If others are claiming the same thing than they dont know. Just cos you say so does not not make it so. Arent you the expert who claimed Louis lost his punch? Joe Louis spun Buddy Baer around with a shot. How many times have you seen that? As always you fail to take into account relevant factors. Foreman and Primo were big guys, one had top 100 ranking cos he had power and the other had muscle bound power, just throwing ponderous punches. I hope you can tell the difference, one guy's power causes the opponents knee to flex the other was just a muscle bound puncher. Primo, had 59 pds on Sharkey that is a big difference. Whether it was a clean uppercut to the chin/jaw or a forearm the result was what mattered and in both scenario's Sharkey lost his title.

 

It's still difficult to tell if the punch lands clean. It's Sharkey's facial reaction that leads me to believe it was legit.

 

Dang is that your best? Address the post

 

"I got knocked out."

That seems to be pretty clear from Sharkey's point-of-view.

"I can't convince anyone of this, even my wife has her doubts, I think."

I read this as a joke. Sort of like I got KTFO in front of everyone and on film, and nobody accepts what is obvious.

 

I agree with the facial reaction. Sharkey would have had to have been a really great actor to have that "out of it" facial expression. He looked unconscious.

 

Should I be concerned about this fixation?

 

Because I say so certainly does not make it so ,and that goes for you and Reznik too! The difference being I don't get irate because someone disagrees with me.Why do you keep responding to my posts there are many on here who disagree fundamentally with you ? Do you think they are all Alts which is your usual get out when challenged?

 

I find Carnera not being able to stop Loughran far less "curious" than Sharkey stopping Loughran.

Loughran was only stopped three times in 127 fights (one early TKO in his 11th fight) and then by Sharkey and Hamas, both of whom he beat in returns.

Loughran was tough to stop. The anomaly is that Sharkey stopped him. Max Baer didn't.

As for Sharkey himself, he was stopped four times in 55 fights and was apparently lucky not be stopped in one of fights with Maloney when Maloney was DQ'd after flooring Sharkey six times. So I don't find it that odd that Carnera stopped an aging Sharkey.

 

mcvey,This is a generalization not a fact.

Dumb n dumber posts by you, it is a fact, especially if the guy was huge, you duck thats a legitimate tactic.

As I mentioned before, if Sharkey for whatever reason, had decided to go into the tank by catching the first decent looking punch coming his way wouldn't it help his case enormously if he reacted in the way that he did?
Pure speculation and fantasy boxing, so if I have this right, Sharkey planned it out, ducking and inviting an uppercut to go into his act, yep, fantasy at it's best. But hey you are entitled to come up with whatever scenario you want.

What was Sharkey a stand up boxer of ability, doing ducking and crouching so much putting himself in harms way for uppercuts?

OMG and you wrote this, too funny. See now you say, "you see he had it planned out, Sharkey drew the uppercut so that he could do his performance.

Several posters have given unbiased and objective opinions in which they have said because Carnera's body blocks our view of the punch they cannot determine whether it was a fist or a forearm that landed on Sharkey.
I find that to be an eminently reasonable position to take.

Always stating the obvious. Yes it is and has been the case for many yrs, but I guess we needed to wait til you gave it your seal of approval.

Anyone stating they are certain that it was a fist, just don't want to entertain the possibility that they maybe mistaken and therefore wrong.

Turn it around and it's just as true as "if it was a forearm, "If they are certain that it was a forearm, just don't want to entertain the possibility that they maybe mistaken and therefore wrong".


Too much ego on the line? Or wilful refusal to acknowledge the possibility that they are wrong?

This coming from a guy who upon seeing visual evidence, is in denial after many posts illustrating he was wrong. He still didnt see it, yep correct on the ego.

Personally I think there is a hard core here who just cannot accept that anyone can hold a different viewpoint to their own and so they have to be insulted and derogated. No matter, some of us will stand by our opinions.

Exactly, there is a hard core here, like yourself. I posted a bunch of quotes from contemporaries of a fighter in question in another thread. This hard core insisted this fighter was overrated, I stated my POV, and posted what the fighters contemporaries said including ATG's. !00 yrs later come people who with no basis in fact distort and deny and conveniently leave out relevant facts and are too stubborn to see another pov. No problem with you standing by your opinion but expect if you post something you will be challenged, AND WHATS WRONG WITH THAT,HUH!