[GIF] Carnera KO Sharkey (Slow Mo)

But he wasn't inconsistent at that point.

He had only lost to the very best over the past eight years or so.

I think it is more than a stretch to say that he was the kind of champion that you would look to cash out quickly.

 

"mcvey, You don't discuss boxing ,you try and browbeat posters ,you talk ,"at them", not," with them".If they happen to hold a different opinion to yourself they are fools.Well there seems to be a lot of fools here.[/QUOTE]

You know that's not true, you dont like it when somebody has an opposing view. With you and the hard core a big yes, to most I would think not. I respond in kind. I never, ever said anybody with an opposing view is a fool. Why do you do this? Pull in others and then say, if they dont agree with me they are fools.

Sigh, please kind sir, let the other posters see for themselves on the Jennette thread, and my addressing the quote made by another "hard core" poster. Sorry if you think I am picking on you, but you opened that door. I replied to your post, was I wrong? Was that browbeating you? I was addressing the comments you made.
I would say I am opinionated but so are you. Again, I only address your posts.

 

As always no proof just hearsay

 

That is no proof of anything. You accuse and point fingers but you have no proof everything you post seems to have a negative spin why? FYI even now, mob guys, gangsters and other riff-raff attend fights and associate with big time fighters, all types of people hang out with fighters why is it guilt by association?

 

Primo was not a fraud.

Larry Gains called primo a "damaging puncher just the same".

Sharkey said Primo was a "much better fighter than given credit for" who he "didn't credit he might improve" from their first fight and "handled me with ease" in the rematch.

Max Schmeling called Primo a "technically sound boxer" who "could penetrate any defence" with his reach and leverage. Unsurprisingly, Max "was not surprised Carnera kayoed sharkey".

Max Baer even predicted Carnera would beat Joe Louis!!! That's how serious he rated primo.

So it seems like all the fighters of the day took Primo Carnera very seriously indeed!!!

 

Please stop playing the innocent one being picked on, kinda lame dont you think? Also what "evidence", all your hearsay evidence?, that evidence? Or the evidence that you say that you cant see it, really what evidence are you talking about? Opposing evidence has been posted, Rez has posted various shots of the ko and you still cant it see it. "A deja vu moment", I remember a thread on Marciano - Louis where you denied. denied denied seeing a punch thrown by Louis. Seems to be your MO, when caught deny, deny.
About a unhealthy obssession jeez you must think you "sumbodee".

 

But "I was knocked out" is exactly what he would say if he was knocked out as it was the naked truth.

Also, it doesn't stand alone. The film backs him up.

I repeat that it is odd to quote a man saying he was knocked out and what I take to be a joke about no one believing what is obvious and reasonable, with his wife dragged in as the punchline, as evidence of a fix.

This quote simply doesn't back up your point of view at all.

"Schaaf"

Is interesting. I wish Sharkey would have elaborated. It might be a reasonable deduction that the fact that Schaaf was killed in the ring by Carnera did instill fear into Sharkey at least when he was in the ring with Carnera and realized that Carnera had improved a lot and was now using his size and strength to better advantage.

I don't know what else to make of Sharkey seeing Schaaf in front of him.

 

I agree with this. A physical threat against Sharkey or his family would have brought the wrath of the nation down on any gangster who did it. If they were going to fix the fight, buying off the officials would have been much more likely.

 

Although he wasn't champion Nathan Mann was supposedly controlled by Dutch Schultz. Schultz is attributed with the killing of Vincent "mad Dog" Coll by most accounts today. I saw you credit it to Owney Madden. Who may have played a part to exact revenge for Coll's kidnappings of mobsters including Madden's friend Demange. I know it's Off topic but still fascinating stories from the era. Madden bought the club deluxe from Jack Johnson and turned it into the cotton club

 

I can't help thinking that the worst thing Primo ever did was have an affair with Damon Runyon's wife who was 26 years younger than Runyon.

After all, It was the influential Runyon and others like Galico, who were so eager to paint Primo as a clownish fraud. Yet nobody thinks any of this must be based on Runyon knowing Primo was giving Runyons wife a serious portion.

It was so embarrassing for Runyon that The Hearst group (who paid Mussolini £1,600 dollars a month to write for them) eventually got Mussolini to tell Carnera to stop having sex with Runyon's wife.

 

She said it to you as well?

 

If this thread is 13 pages of debating whether that punch landed, I'm glad I don't post on here so often anymore. What bugs me out is people are saying it 'looks' like it landed and the people saying it doesn't are completely adamant. If someone can present some undeniable evidence that the punch didn't land please show us

 

He had won 2 of his last 4 fights.And would win just 2 of his next 7!
Losses to ;
Risko
Schmeling
Dempsey
Weinert
Draws with Middleweight Mickey Walker and limited Tom Heeney.
Sharkey was sh*t lucky to be champion at all because he didn't deserve the verdict over Schmeling.I never said he cashed out he may have been pressured ,threatened. Thoughout his career he dropped decisions he should have won ,that is the very definition of inconsistency!