Who is better is H2H matchups with the best HW's ever... Vitali or Wlad

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who do you think (in their prime) would do better against the elite HW's from the past and present
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's easier to penetrate?
    Vitalis chin or Wladmirs clinching?
     
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  3. JoffJoff

    JoffJoff Regular Junkie Full Member

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    I would take Vitali and I expect the majority will feel the same.
    Wladimir has the greater legacy of course, with a far richer, deeper resume from which to draw conclusions, the more proven champion and a master of the style he was trained in under Steward.
    Vitali, bigger and badder, while not as powerful a puncher or as refined a boxer has a toughness his brother doesn't and boasts an immortal chin. A more natural fighter, I would probably pick Vitali ahead of Wladimir in more hypothetical H2H scenarios.
     
  4. BCS8

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    Wlad hits harder, is lighter on his feet, has a better punching technique and is probably the smarter of the two.

    Vitali is super-awkward, has a more unique style and THAT chin. He is also the natural fighter.

    I think I'd go with Vitali. His durability puts him over the top for me. Lots of the greats were big hitters, and if Sanders' perfect counter-left and Lennox's uppercut from hell did nothing to him then I don't really see anyody else denting that chin.
     
  5. BCS8

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    Joffjoff beat me to it!!
     
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  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    wlad would be able to lose fewer rounds until he gets ktfo.

    vital would last longer but lose more rounds.
     
  7. janitor

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    I would say Wlad based on his much longer run of form against elite opposition.
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    elite? goodness sake who??
     
  9. BCS8

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    Your mom ^
     
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  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Guys who could secure a top 10 Ring Mag ranking.
     
  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A Ring Rating does not necessarily make one an elite.
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It dosn't, but it is a fair indication.

    The point is that Vitally Klitschko, was beating people who were less succesful at gaining this megre distinction, and less of them!
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Aye, Vitali's opposition is maybe just bad enough that it's difficult to tell.

    Wlad's, better.
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    thats not the accepted def of elite. elites are a nmall group who can be trusted to beat everyone except member of that small group, surely? top ten doesnt make u elite at all, it makes you fringe world level to world level progressively going up, though the top 2-3 might be elites.
     
  15. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a fair enough position to take.

    I'm less inclined, however, to draw on Wlad's record to merit his standing with the best Heavies ever, on a Head-to-Head basis. Surely, this scenario has more to do with relative strengths and weaknesses?

    As one poster has already raised - What would present the greater challenge: Vitali's chin or Wlad's wrestling?

    Each brother has different attributes and I would tend towards backing the man, with the qualities most likely to see him through a series of the toughest contests a Heavyweight could face. Vitali's proven granite hardness is something I would therefore favor.
     
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