Deontay Wilder is crapping his pants right now

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  1. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That makes sense to me and another thing that will stay with him is the fact that it was a right hand that put Joshua down and on ***** street. He is thinking that if he puts him down like that. Windmills forever. lol. He will probably break both his hands and pieces of A.J.'s face in the process.
     
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  2. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry to interupt this top 10 but as 2 years as a champion, Wilder shouldve fought a top 5 by now. Two years! Joshua and Parker I doubt will shy away from fighting a top 5 within two years, oh actually, just Parker, now that AJs fought Wlad. Wilder couldve fought Wlad ages ago.
     
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  3. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Do we really have to have this big a debate about Wilder after an ATG fight like this between Wlad and AJ?

    Let's appreciate the moment those two provided and wait and see what Wilders next fight is before we start in on him again, or at least give it a couple days.
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I've already acknowledged that he was ranked as a top 10. That I'm not disputing. But was he ever a top 10 HW h2h? That I'm not so sure about.

    Beating a faded Arreola(struggling in the 2nd fight) and a shot to bits Ray Austin doesn't make you a top 10 h2h in my books. H2H he never cemented his status as a top 10 fighter, it was brief at best.
     
  5. Saintpat

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    Povetkin screwed that up twice.

    Wilder couldn't have fought Wlad because:

    1) Wilder to to fight Povetkin.

    2) It was called off because Povetkin failed a drug test.

    3) The situation was held up because the WBC gave Povetkin another chance.

    4) And before the fight could be set again, Povetkin failed ANOTHER drug test.

    5) At the same time, you have Wlad fighting Fury and losing. Then setting a rematch, which Fury ducked out of, and that situation locked up Fury until it finally sorted out, Joshua got a title and Wlad was locked in with him.

    So, no, not really.

    Wilder seems most willing to fight Parker. If it doesn't happen right away, it's probably down to politics and the WBC, which has ordered him to fight Stiverne again ... a fight nobody wants, but if it's a mandatory (and people have been screaming that he needs to fight a mandatory) it's probably going to happen unless they work out a deal with Parker pretty quick and the WBC approves it ahead of the mandatory.

    There's fair criticism of Wilder, but if Povetkin hadn't f***ed up TWICE, that would have happened by now.
     
  6. Saintpat

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    SO what rankings are you talking about? What is the authoritative ranking that you are referring to when you say he hasn't fought a top 10 -- the one in your head?

    And that's OK, but, again, take out the current champs and those who aren't active or eligible (Tyson Fury, Hughie Fury - who I don't consider top 10 but some might - and Povetkin) and name your top 10 contenders.

    Shouldn't be that hard to answer two simple questions.
     
  7. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Totally agree with you on Povetkin and I know all about that let down but still, two years. Come on. Surely couldve asked Wlad at some stage or fought Ortiz or someone. Ortiz is ranked no.2 in the WBC but I think I know why he wont bark up that tree.
     
  8. Saintpat

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    BTW, if anyone wants to cite Boxrec's rankings:

    1) Wlad just moved up to No. 1, above Joshua, off today's loss.

    2) Guillermo Jones is in the top 10 at heavyweight. I am not making this up.

    3) If you take out the champions (Wilder - he can't fight himself - and AJ and Parker) and Povetkin (not eligible to fight for a title), then Malik Scott is a top 10 contender, Eric Molina is a top 10 contender and Duhaupass is No. 11.
     
  9. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    Wilder will in all likelihood fight Stiverne again, then Breazeale, then Martin in a cadre of mandatory and voluntary defences of the WBC belt. At this stage, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Wilder fighting Swooning Scuba Scott again, awarding ol' Scuba a voluntary defence opportunity in an effort to get his good friend a nice payday.
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Don't trust the ABC rankings, neither should any hardcore fan.. Any true boxing fan should have a fairly good idea of who's an elite or top 10 fighter and who isn't. You know as well as I know that many rankings are littered with fighters who are unworthy of their position. I do know that Wilder hasn't defended against a fighter anyone in their right mind would consider a top 10. Wilders opposition is beyond pathetic, and only you and a couple of other circle jerkers on here defend it.
     
  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Boxrec's algorithm is pretty broken at times... I don't know who disputes this. Often times though it's still more accurate than most of the ABC's.
     
  12. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    I was just checking the Boxrec ratings, and noticed that with Wlad and Joshua. Also, quite how Charles Martin still finds himself rated as the 8th best Heavyweight in the world must be beyond the comprehension of anybody -- Charles Martin included.
     
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  13. Saintpat

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    So by Boxrec's rankings, Wilder has defeated two of the top 10 eligible contenders -- in the current ratings, and at least two others (Stiverne and Szpilka, who was 7th at the time) who were ranked in the top 10 when he fought them.

    I agree he hasnn't yet faced a TOP challenge -- either a champ or a top 3-5 contender -- but it's incorrect to say he hasn't defeated a top 10 contender.
     
  14. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder already called out AJ, but the reality is that AJ has mandatories, rematch clauses, Eddie Hearn talking about building the fight for later this year.. Hearn has been saying this for a year now. The Parker fight is right on time, both will be available and it's favorable marketing as it brings us closer to undisputed. Words out of Wilder's own mouth to Bellew is that he's looking to unify. You should want this. I doubt Wilder/Parker would be in Alabama, NY or Las Vegas is more likely.
     
  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    If i already said the **** was dumb, then what the **** am i pointing out? Gtfooh Wlad lost. ****en reject boxing fan.