Deontay Wilder is crapping his pants right now

Technically that would be Stiverne, yes. Calling any of these guys - Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola or Washington top 10 is a bit of a stretch. Using your eyes would you honestly consider any of these guys to be top 10? If so... Based on what? Resume and in terms of eye tests I don't see how any of those them could be labeled as top 10 when they faced Wilder. Top 15 maybe in a few cases... We're arguing semantics now.... There's no Wilder opponent that any honest fan would definitively say was top 10 h2h when Wilder faced them. Which is exactly my point... Stretch their rankings as far as you'd like, still scraping the bottom of the barrel.

 

If the WBC makes Wilder fight Stiverne first, it will probably be in Alabama because that's the only place on earth where you could sell a single ticket.

 

Those in the know? Who are "those in the know". Have Parker or Ortiz even fought anyone that could punch? If so point them out.

 

Then what rankings are you using and RIGHT NOW -- excluding other champs and inactives/ineligibles -- who are YOUR top 10?

Your h2h assumes IMO that there are all these contenders out there ... when there really aren't.

I'd look at Bellew or Christian Hammer and say, nah, they're not really top 10 ... but then I look at the landscape and beyond Ortiz and maybe Pulev ... they probably are top 10 as there's not a whole lot of viable true contenders out there.

And I'd say Duhaupas with wins over Charr and Helinius, a game showing against Wilder and a close (but fair) loss on points to Terper (like Povetkin, a roided-up opponent) makes him top 10. It wouldn't during the 1970s when you had Norton and Lyle and Jimmy Young and a host of others, but in today's world it does.

You say he hasn't fought a top 10. I've asked three times to pick your ratings system or pick your own top 10, and you just say "this guy really wasn't top 10" without saying who you think right now is.

So bring it, man. Back up your words.

 

You're just spouting ignorance and hatred. Wilder has already headlined in NYC in a successful outing.

 

Like I said.. I don't put much value in ranking systems even if a couple of those guys were ranked in the WBC top 10(which is the only ranking system that matters in Wilders case) Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola and Washington aren't top 10 in any sane fans mind.

Molina was literally plucked when he was in the process of negotiating with Parker... Zero wins over credible opponents, stopped in 1 by Arreola - then went life and death with Grano. Nowhere near top 10.

Duhaupas has the best argument, but beating Charr who isn't a top 20 HW and losing a close fight to Teper isn't enough to solidify a top 10 spot.

Szpilka's best win was shot to bits Adamek and it didn't come easy... Went life and death with journeyman Mollo TWICE and got schooled and stopped by light hitting Jennings.

Arreola? PFFFFFTTTT... Don't even need to explain that one.

Washington? Mediocre mid 30s ex-football player who BARELY managed to beat Nagy, got a gift against Mansour... Even top 15 is a best.

Rankings are BS. We're hardcore boxing fans on a boxing forum... If you think any of these guys are top 10 then explain so with your own logic.

 

Did you not know Parker has not been knocked out? Those in the know!

As for anyone that can punch - google them Blizz and then you tell me if they have or have not. While youre at it, find a genuine video of Joseph Parker getting knocked out. Add Ortiz to that as well. I can find one of Wilder getting knocked out and wobbled, I promise you I can show you that.

 

You've got a good list of who you think ISN'T a top 10 heavyweight.

So who is? You really don't have any idea, do you? Should be easy for a hardcore boxing fan.

 

Calling a fighter fluid is using the industry vernacular - excellent reflexes, balance, smart and fast footwork all put together. That is a fluid fighter and Wilder is not. Loma is fluid.

I will go by the consensus on a boxing forum rather than the silly "he moves, he is not stable" defintion.

 

My bad dun. Your answer didn't make sense. So what I usually do when that happens is I check the post totals and just realized that you're an alt, lmao.

 

Wilder would really hurt Joshua.

 

A AJ v Fury fight would be very very very big. Wilder is still fighting in Bumfuk USA, I think you are delusional if you think Wilder is a big money fight..

Maybe if he get some more exposure in the UK as that is where the money is for the HW division atm..

 

He ca swing but he is not fluid at all. He is quite stiff even for a heavyweight. Yet, I give him a chance against AJ. AJ has shown that he easily gasses. This could a factor against Wilder.

 

Don't forget a lot of people still don't know who Wilder is because he hadn't fought any of the top dudes yet.

Its not his fault Sasha tested positive and instead it wasted Wilders time. Still its not like Wilder has gone after the best guys in the world at least until now let's hope.

 

Joshua would beat Wilder handily.

Reality is Joshua would be a huge step up in class now that he's proven he belongs near the top. Wilder's best win was against a sick Stiverne. His best hope prior to last night was that AJ was as chinny as some said he was, but he took Wlad's hardest shots, you think Wilder hits harder than Wlad?

Wilder has the power to hurt even drop AJ but will take more than one hard shot to keep him down. Wilder has struggled and been hurt by fighters that AJ would blow out inside 3 rounds, can't see him handling the power, counter punching and mid to close range skills Joshua's possesses. Wilder much like Martin makes a lot of mistakes, his size and athleticism allows him to get away with it against low level opposition but against Joshua it would get him KTFO.