Does A Prime Marciano Beat The Joshua Of Today?

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  1. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Man this place is a riot most of the time ^^^^^^^^:risas3:
     
  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    But if you were filmed with black and white cameras these little side details don't matter.
    No personal story, injury, excuse, matters. You are irrelevant.

    However if I can see the color of your trunks, the glisten of the light reflecting from your muscles, and the drops of sweat that fly from your face, you have my attention...
     
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  3. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Lol just like you tell amateurs in the training section they should only train legs once per week for S&C :ohno:duh
     
  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    So what, Marciano could have easily been 197lb in the ring.

    The point is, it's the era that makes the guy so heavy and for a fantasy fight to happen it can only happen in one or the others era under the rules and training of that time.

    Do you seriously think a guy as tall as Joshua is could ever fight like that at that size in the 1950s? Nobody would let him use weights for a start..and thats before all the stuff came available that has seen most of today's top heavyweights fail drugs tests (fury, Ortiz, Pulev, povetkin etc etc etc)

    Joshua is a great fighter for his time, but he is without doubt a product of modern training. It's ok to say he's great but to say he's better than anything that came before because of what he looks like is wrong. It's like saying warriors of the Bronze Age could not fight. They could. They just had not invented the iron yet.
     
  5. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua may hurt and or drop Marciano early but is put to sleep by the 7th.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    If you want to limit someone to prime wins over someone as good as Robinson your answers become Turpin and LaMotta
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    Carnera lost to people of Rocky's size.

    Joshua murders Primo.
     
  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    without fighting a guy with the pace of a 41 year old he might not have been able to get back into that fight. It so easily could have went the other way.

    the effort of that explosive burst that initially hurt Wlad almost backfired! It took too much out of him and ended up getting decked himself.

    this luxury of being able to change a fighters body to suit an assignment was not available before the 1980s.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Primo never lost to a guy his own size and he fought plenty of them. So You can't say that josh murders Primo. Or prove he couldn't.
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    I can say it and I have said it
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Tell that to Sugar Ray Robinson, he had no issue fluctuating between 147 and 160
     
  12. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What advantage would a heavyweight gain by drying out before the weigh-in, and then rehydrate by fight time - as opposed to not drying out in the first place?
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    Yeah because he's stopped Rocky in the first and has had 18 minutes to fall asleep once the adrenaline wears off.
     
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Now you are being silly, Robinson only had to be 150 to fight 160 guys because there was no super welterweight. Robinson never scaled 160 in one fight then scaled 147 in his next fight. :facepalm:
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    your wrong to say it though because your ruling out Primo even though he had fought a lot of guys with more than 18 fights who were super heavyweight sized and always knocked them out. There is a lot of evidence of it. He was possibly the most active SHW of all time with the most knockouts who won fights at world level.

    That's like saying Kovalev "murders" Jack Dempsey because they were the same size in the ring. You can't say that.
     
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