Who has the better resume Joshua or Fury?

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  1. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    This is pointless
    I'm thinking
    Please go and pull up Tyson's ama record rounds boxed and total fights then compare with Joshua's what 40 fast tracked ama fights with absolute no boxing pedigree or back ground
    Iron mike was unified champ at twenty think about that
     
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  2. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I like Joshua's win against Wlad more. He was dragged in the trenches but at the end of the day he had Wlad down and all over the place multiple times, something Tyson wasn't close to. Fury played it safe and was un grazed but the win was no where near as emphatic.
    I kind of like Fury's personality as a boxer, he did add a bit to the mix but I am one of those that isn't that impressed with his career really, he wins but rarely looks that great in doing it wheras Joshua is banging them out in exciting fights. that's just a balanced view, I think they are both very much needed in the division, but have doubts Tyson will make it back the same...
     
  3. Twentyman

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    It all depends on taste doesn't it...do you like someone who puts out a blazing fire or do you like someone who won't even let the fire start.
     
  4. murphman22

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    Yeah and Lennox Lewis didn't win the British title until he was 26. If anything Fury's accomplishments are freakish.
     
  5. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Not at all
    You seen his dad say Tyson as been primed to be heavyweight champion longtime in the making
    If I remember did nt his family have a bet on him becoming world heavy weight champion from way back
     
  6. murphman22

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    Your Dad could say you were primed to be a heavyweight champion. It's doesn't mean it will happen and it doesn't mean you don't have astounding ability if it does.

    Heavyweights don't reach prime until later 20s. Fury was fighting in his teans beating men. It's staggering what he has done and was able to achieve.
     
  7. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    My dad ain't from a fighting family does not claim to be a hard man didn't pull me out of school and was not a boxer himself and never claimed I would be a heavy weight champion hell he named him after a world champion
    Tyson as superb fundamentals taught to him from a very young age by yes you guessed it his fighting family
    Joshua on the other hand
     
  8. Legend X

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    It's close but Fury's resume is better.

    Fury's win over Wlad was better. He beat the 11-year unbeaten version of Wlad, the Wlad who had held world title for 9 years. Fury won the fight and never looked close to losing it.

    It's incredible (or perhaps depressingly predictable), that many people are trying to build AJ's win over Wlad up as a greater achievement.
    It wasn't.
    It was a far more entertaining fight, an absolute classic, but it was not as big of an achievement.
     
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  9. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it's more astonishing what Joshua has achieved when you take into consideration the first time he even put on a pair of boxing gloves was when Fury was about to turn pro and had already been boxing since he was a kid.
     
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  10. Twentyman

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    Fury is a level above in terms of skill imo...but the power in them fists of AJ and the speed in which they are delivered are something else. Klitschko's ancestors felt that uppercut.
     
  11. LondonRingRules

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    Yeah everyone in my living room exploded off the sofa when that uppercut landed. Wlad showed unbelievable heart to stay up and then try and fight on.
     
  12. pne buz

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    I think its an impossible comparison due to Furys problems.Completely different paths to the same end result,both beat the man.Aj wouldn't be a world champ had fury not been stripped,and its not Aj's fault Fury lost the plot.All we can hope is Fury gets back to his best and it gets settled in the ring.Fury wins for me but either way Britain has the undisputed king at the end of it
     
  13. Mc2

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    All this talk about joshua being a novice. Fair enough in terms of years in the ring...but lets be clear hes had the advantage of access to one of the best training facilities in the world etc from early doors. Training like hes the champion of the world for literally years with people that know what their doing with access to the best equiptment facilities technology etc. Theres not that many that have had that sort of access from early in their career. Its not exactly a guy thats just turned up and been the most talented kid in the world. When you ve got fury lifting weights in a shed...with terrible technique. Think we can take this joshuas a novice thats performing way above himself talk with a pinch of salt.

    Fury,s the more talented of the two.
     
  14. PaddyGarcia

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    Fury for me. He has a slightly younger Wlad and a shot Chisora took Whyte to the very edge (I scored it for Chisora but we're strictly speaking resume here so I guess that doesn't matter), so they're the two best wins. Cunningham is decent too although not really a Heavyweight. Hammer is better than Molina and Martin.
     
  15. Legend X

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    I agree with your points on Joshua.

    Bryant Jennings deserves a mention for comparison. Started boxing at 24, went 13-4 as an amateur losing in the US national finals, he was almost 26 when he turned professional with no fanfare. Five years later he went 12 rounds with Klitschko. That was 2 years ago. Next fight they threw him in with Ortiz.
    Not sure whether he'll be back but Jennings was remarkable, a true novice without any star treatment, he did pretty good.
     
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