Prime Mike Tyson vs the Joshua of today?

An outstanding post.

 

You can imagine that he would bob and weave his shots and would get inside to hit him with a left hook and
would destroy him from the inside , i can imagine that as well , but that doesn't make it realistic.

 

I love it how you say: "Bruno was only 6'3" implying that he was small. Ha!

Joshua is only 3" taller, with practically the same reach and weight.


What do you mean he ALWAYS had problems with guys of 6'4 and above?


Wlad may have beaten Mike, but we know that Wlad has confidence issues and has been taken out 3 times by lesser fighters.


Forget what Mike said regarding the K's. He was been respectful, and is no longer a fighter. He's no longer in fight mode. If the K's had been around in the 80's, you know he'd have given a completely different answer.


Are you really going to bring up the loss to Lennox, as some sort of evidence that he couldn't have beaten Joshua? You may as well cite his loss to Williams too.

 

3 inches are a lot in boxing and i don't know why people bringing up Frank Bruno in this matchup only because
Tyson Fury made a joke , they are not comparable at all , Frank Bruno was a euro level fighter and AJ is a
unified champion who just beat an all time great in one of the biggest heavyweight fights of all time.

This comparisons need to stop.

 

People don't realize how fast and powerful Tyson was in his prime lmfao. This would be over, very quickly!!

 

Yet there are plenty of fights pre jail when it wasn't over quickly and to much lesser guys than Joshua.

 

Okin129,

Come on.

He's fought nobody that even resembles Mike.

The gameplan that Wlad had suited his size.

Mike wouldn't have had any success staying on the outside. His success would have come getting in close, trying to fire in hooks and uppercuts, attacking the body.

I'll tell you something, if Joshua would have been willing to have brawled with Mike in a shootout, that would have seen his chances of winning diminish. Because he'd have found Mike hard to hit clean, he would have left himself more vulnerable to Mike's shots, and he'd have started to empty his gas tank.

His best chance to win would have been to try and stay composed, using his jab, trying to keep him at a distance.

He has good speed and technique for his size, and I'll give him credit for getting up. But we know that Mike was much faster with the power needed to end the fight.

 

3 inches is significant if you're looking at reach. But not when you're comparing guys of 6'3 and 6'6.

Frank had his vulnerabilities and will never be classed as an ATG. However, he certainly wasn't a Euro level HW, and if he was around today, he would certainly be respected and ranked in the top 10.

Don't give me that unified champion nonsense.

I give him all the credit in the world for beating Wlad, but those belts belong to Tyson Fury.

 

I think you are underestimating Anthony Joshuas power and aggressiveness in all of your posts if you think
that he would be more vulnerable in a shootout with the much smaller Mike Tyson.

It would be like two great punchers from two different weight divisions would fight against eachother , i would understand your point if AJ would be as stiff and slow as some people still try to label him, but he is certainly not.

He is the fastest big heavyweight i have ever seen , he fights more like a small man himself.

 

I'm not underestimating Joshua's power or aggressiveness, and I'm a fan.

What I'm doing, is looking from the perspective of how their styles would have meshed.

Styles make fights, and every fighter has a different gameplan depending on the circumstances.

Joshua possess the attributes to have beaten Mike. There's no doubt about that. But if his gameplan had been to have fought Mike in a shootout, his chances of winning would have diminished compared to a different gameplan.

It doesn't matter if he's the fastest SHW out there. He isn't as fast as what Mike was.

Letting his hands go would have made him vulnerable. He would have been more open, and he would have expended energy.

 

some good posts here. also taking into account Tyson wasn't easy to hurt. AJ would need a good game plan over a long fight, which he hasn't shown he can do just yet.

 

Fair post from you , he would definitely be vulnerable but Mike Tysons chin is not what i would call a granite chin,
he was knocked down and knocked out a couple of times from lesser punchers than AJ, my prediction is that he wouldn't survive 12 rounds with AJ and would lose the fight by KO in the middle rounds.

 

it makes it very realistic

 

er Tyson's chin was pretty good...

I wonder how AJ would have taken those Ruddock punches? He was knocked out by Douglas because he had taken a beating for 10 rounds. at age 32 way past his best he took most of Lewis's hardest punches before finally going down in round 8. I'm pretty sure Lewis and Ruddock are in the ball park of AJ's power.

 

I don't agree, but it's fun to debate.