Canelo " I wont fight for the Golovkin for the WBC belt" LOL

I'm sorry Canelo fans, but please try to look at things logically.

When the WBC president announced this belt, most of the neutral fans and Golovkin superfans were complaining that it was a money grab and bad for boxing. But many of you were saying there was nothing shady about an org making a commemorative belt like this for a big fight:

This ^^^ was in response to:

To be fair to @IsaL, he was perfectly clear and consistent that the belt was valueless. So consistent in that regard. But the posts above were still defending the WBC's blatant money grab.

But now that Canelo has bashed the WBC for its blatant money grab, they are all praising Canelo for exposing the WBC and its shady ways of trying to collect sanctioning fees. This time you are right, I'm perfectly willing to praise Canelo for exposing the corrupt WBC too and have already done so several times. But please, you cannot have double standards like this.

 

Another thing. Does this also mean that canelo will skip VADA testing from now on and in the Golovkin fight if it ever happens?

 

On the contrary. Unlike normal champions in a normal situation, Canelo had a mandatory before he even fought Cotto to become champ! Canelo was getting special treatment alright, he was being treated unlike any other champion the WBC has ever had. Who the hell has to agree to a mandatory just to get into a title fight? It's beyond absurd, that the WBC gave him a mandatory before even becoming champion. This special treatment annoyed Cotto as well to the point where Cotto wouldn't even pay the sanctioning fees for the Canelo bout!

What don't you get about the fact that the person who was getting special treatment by the WBC was obviously Triple G. Triple G echoed the WBC's 15 day timetable when he showed up at the Canelo Khan bout. Triple G was trying to back Canelo into a corner so neogitations favored him because otherwise naturally it would be clear that negotiations would favor Canelo with him being the bigger star. The WBC was clearly giving special treatment to Triple G to try to artificially even the playing field of negotiations. Again, under normal circumstances, Canelo would not have had a mandatory upon him winning the WBC belt. Normally, Canelo wouldn't have been forced to agree to such unusual terms upon signing for a Title Fight.

As far as you thinking that post was me defending the WBC Cinco de Mayo belt’s value, you’re got to be kidding me lol. I very emphatically mocked the Cinco de Mayo belt like everyone else, I specifically stated that it was Sulaimán’s way of apologizing to Canelo for pulling all those shenanigans last year that resulted in Canelo dropping his MW belt. Like “see what happens” the guy Sulaimán just makes up another belt and tries to attach himself to this Canelo vs Chavez bout when the WBC has nothing to do with it.

Sulaimán is clearly trying to ride Canelo’s coattails, and Canelo is having none of it. I freakin love that Canelo stated he won’t be fighting for any WBC belt, not the fake Cinco de Mayo belt, and not the real one vs Triple G. It just goes to show that Canelo has principles and isn’t going to hold someones belt who gave Triple G such special treatment and made people think he was scared of Triple G or that he didn’t respect the indigenous people of Mexico who supposedly made the fake belt, which is BS and you know it.

 

Hahahah


A man that lies in front of millions does NOT HAVE PRINCIPLES


"I'll fight at 160 no problem" in the ring after the Khan fight, then goes to ask 155lbs, when he knows a mandatory challenger CANNOT be obliged to fight under the weight


"My body is not ready for 160lbs" just before the Liam Smith fight last September

Not even 3-4 months later goes to negociate a fight with JCC jr at 165 lbs

Canelo is proven liar, AND DOES NOT HAVE PRINCIPLES

 

Just to give one example

Tyson Fury got into the Wlad fight knowing that if he wins he must fight Glazkov

Because he didnt to, he was stripped,

There are many many cases like this, dozens


What you dont understant is that Canelo wanted SPECIAL TREATMENT from the WBC for as long as he lived, in this case in the detriment of GGG, who was waiting his turn to fight for that belt, nothing more

 

The WBC merely enforced its rules. I can't see why you have a problem with that.

Canelo already knew that he would have Golovkin as a mandatory when he signed up to the fight!!!! They paid Golovkin a step-aside fee on the understanding that he would be next.

And then, seeing that it as harsh for Canelo to have to fight Golovkin straightaway, the WBC granted Canelo a voluntary (Amir Khan - May 2016) before the mandatory obligation which had been enforced in February 2015!! Canelo has nothing to complain about, realy.

And if you want to blame someone, blame Cotto for using every trick in the book to put off his mandatory obligations, stalling until the last minute and then vacating.

Is your idea of fairness for mandatories not to be mandated?

Your post which I quoted earlier clearly indicated that the "BELT" had value. Was it an attempt to troll the people complaining about Canelo or the WBC? Because that's the only way it can be reconciled with the above.

We agree fully that the WBC are crooks.

 

The problem wasn't necessarily having a commemmorative belt for Cinco de Mayo weekend, it was the history that had already transpired between the WBC and Canelo and all the WBC's business interests behind the belt. It was the fact that Canelo had already been disrespected by this organization, and the belt felt like more of a peace offering or an apologize to Canelo by the WBC more than anything.

I don't see any double standards here by Canelo's fans. Every Canelo fan and non-Canelo laughed at the Cinco de Mayo belt, for the simple fact that it came from the WBC, the same organization that gave special treatment to Triple G, disrespected Canelo making Triple G his mandatory then giving him artificial timetables to agree to Triple G terms.

Another thing, you keep saying that the Cinco de Mayo belt was a money grab. I'm not even sure it was a money grab, I have no evidence that the WBC wanted a part of Canelo or Chavez Jr's purse. (though I wouldn't put it past them) I think it was more of Sulaimán's attempt to insert himself and the WBC into this bout, a bout that has nothing to do with the WBC !!! Whether or not it was a money grab by the WBC isn't the point (though if it was that makes it even worse) it's the fact that this guy is trying to literally ride Canelo's coat tails. It was Sulaimán's way to try to make up for what happened last year, and it's pathetic really.

It just goes to show how desperate Sulaimán is in his he's trying to attach himself to this Canelo vs Chavez bout. Canelo doesn't need the WBC. He's the biggest star in boxing. Sulaimán's antics last year making up special ridiculous rules to cater to Triple G, to pressure Canelo and giving him timetables and all that jazz resulted in Canelo completely trashing his belt. And he's very clearly upset with Canelo and bitter. Hence this silly joke of a Cinco de Mayo belt, and the idea that indiginous people of Mexico made the belt and Canelo not accepting this belt means that Canelo disrespects the indiginous people who suppsoedly made the WBC belt (which is obvioulsy fiction, obvioulsy the WBC belt itself made the belt).

Under different circumstances, a commemmorative belt wouldn't be a problem, but the problem here is the fact that it's coming from the WBC as sort of an apology to Canelo after last yera's GGG shenanigans. Sorry, too late Sulaimán, you had your chance at Canelo being your champion. Now Canelo's not gonna accept any of your belts, not your stupid Cinco de Mayo belt, not your real MW when he fights Triple G!!

 

Oh please!
Don't act like you don't know that Martinez vs Cotto (at catchweight) was instead of Martinez vs interim champion and mandatory Rubio.
Then Rubio lost his interim belt to Golovkin, making him the interim champion and mandatory for Cotto, that would be immidiately after.
Cotto struck a deal with the WBC so he could get one voluntairy (Geale at a catchweight) instead of fighting the then already waaaay overdue mando.
Then he struck another deal so he could again not fight his mandatory and fight Canelo at another catchweight, with the promise the winner would finally face the interim champion next.
And that didn't happen again! Canelo fought Khan, at a catchweight (what else?!) with another promise that he would fight Golovkin next.

Eventually years after the then interim champion should have faced the WBC full champion, we got no less than 4 other fights inbetween with all promises that the next one finally would be against the interim champion.

Then let's not forget how that interim WBC was created... Maravilla's mandatory was already long overdue before his injuries kept him offside.
Exception after exception after exception, and the mandatory never got his shot.
All knew they actually had to fight the mando next, but everytime they could avoid it, leaving the mandatory in the cold. All promising they would fight him next, no next, no really this time...

 

These dudes play dumb....including Canelo.
He's just pissed WBC exposed him as a ducker to the whole world and especially to all of Mexico.

And let's not forget that mandatories are always for belts not people who hold them.
This is why Fury was stripped, the belt was due to be defended. If you become a champ and have to defend the belt right away then tough luck.

Canelo thinks we are all stupid, we can count very well and there is more than 15 days between Nov 2015 and May 2016.

 

I have criticized Cotto for what he did with that belt in the past, from the catchweights to avoiding Golovkin, etc. If Golovkin was Cotto’s mandatory, then it should have been enforced. Forcing a challenger into having a de facto mandatory as a prerequisite to a title fight is highly unusual.

But even that in it of itself wasn’t the reason Canelo vacated. It was the disrespect that Canelo was given, with the WBC issuing a 15 day timetable to agree to Triple G’s terms. This all made a lot of people think that Canelo was scared of fighting Triple G, which was complete fiction but still lives on in peoples minds to this day. Remember, Canelo was very willing to fight Triple G after Khan. But on his own terms, on his own timetable. Not a 15 day hugely disrespectful timetable which would have negated the natural advantages that Canelo had over Triple G in terms of being a bigger star and a bigger box office draw. You don’t seem to understand this reality.

Had the WBC said, Canelo you need to fight Triple G next (after Khan), but gave Canelo a reasonable amount of times to make the fight, like a few months or something, then it’s very probable that Canelo vs Triple G would have happened last September. But they didn’t do that, they did something highly unusual and disrespectful, they said “you have to sign this contract within 15 days of beating Khan or else we’re going to strip you of the title”. Do you understand that that is why Canelo vacated the title, not because he was obligated to fight Triple G after Khan, but due to all the shenanigans involved that very clearly put pressure on him, shenanigans that would have favored Triple G in negotiations.

I was definitely not indicating that the belt had value, but rather just mocking Triple G being handed the belt by the same organization that is now creating a new belt that they want to hand over to Canelo. I was mocking how the WBC “hands out belts”, how it was so important to Triple G to have that WBC belt. Remember “Give me my belt”. Like here Triple G take our belt without having to fight for it. Like lets now create a new belt called a Cinco de Mayo belt for Canelo Chavez. Here take this new belt. Now you’re our champion type of thing. It’s a joke.

Good, glad we agree on this. Lets try and agree on the whole thing now.

 

You are stupid if you think that the 15 days started in Nov 2015 after the Cotto bout. The 15 day timetable was very clearly after the Khan bout which Canelo had 15 days to agree to fighting Triple G or else he was stripped. He didn't like being dictated to, being disrespected, and being unable to make the fight on his own terms and he dropped the title. As I said in my previous post, the WBC should have simply allowed Canelo to negotiate with Triple G to make the fight without the absurd timetables, and the bout would have been made. Canelo was very happy to fight Triple G as his mandatory, he just didn't like being disrespected, given arbitrary timetables, by the WBC and pressured into agreeing to terms laid out by the WBC that greatly favored Triple G in negotiations, terms that wouldn't otherwise favor Triple G as Canelo is the much bigger box office attraction.

 

I think the WBC should have given 100% of the sanctioning fees to the indigenous people. Maybe then Canelo would have accepted the belt and the WBC... But no way would wbc give away money

 

This isn't the truth. An extension could have been asked and would have been granted to agree to terms like it is all the time. Also, if terms could not be met there would be a purse bid that Golden Boy would have the chance to win. There wasn't just 15 days to decide everything that is not true.

 

Read and learn GGG hater

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.boxin...o-golovkin-fight-or-theyll-get-strippped/amp/

Then 15 days negotician period was ONLY FORMALY ANNOUNCENT after it was clear which fighter ( Canelo or Khan) will have to fight his mandatory, in this case, GGG

 

Canelo fans are almost as bad as the *****s... Almost.