Ali 1974 vs Joshua of today, who wins?

I am well aware of that. Also, I am not striving for credibility, I am a beginner, a novice, my opinions are not set in stone.

 

I agree with your post, Ali handled Foreman with great ease. I just think he had to be scared a bit, maybe I'm just speaking for myself lol.

 

I see what you mean. The sun must have shone on Ali cooler than Foreman.

 

I see what you mean. The sun must have shone down on Ali cooler than Foreman.

 

No argument Ali was at his concentrated best, he deffo took Foreman and his power 110% serious. Even his talking in there fit into the overall winning structure.

 

not sure, george had bad stamina but it was mostly due to wrong pacing, throwing too much punches and fighting at a very high intesity.

joshua didnt throw much vs wlad, and gassed out in the 5th round... he was lucky wlad also has a bad stamina, is a weak finisher and doesnt have the killer instict so he had few rounds to get that second wing and finish him.

joshua has a better chin than people thought

 

Foreman actually threw a lot leather early vs Ali. Enough to tire most heavyweights.

 

The fight would mostly be contested from centre ring, Joshua doesn't have the skills to cut off the ring like Foreman. Foreman also had better stamina than Joshua, he threw 76 punches at Ali in round 7 in including a hellacious uppercut against the ropes that Ali took like it was nothing. Joshua was completely exhausted after just one flurry in the 5th.

 

not a foreman fan but also think that he has a better stamina than joshua

joshua is smarter in pacing himself though

 

Deja vu? I think we may have had this conversation before, Foreman was the bigger, heavier man. It is my belief that the conditions took more of a toll on Foreman than Ali. Of course Ali's tactics were spot on and Foreman's all wrong but its only my opinion, George Foreman took his loss and Ali deserves full credit for fighting an intelligent fight and a spectacular win.

 

Sure.... I mean he had a history of punchers knocking him out right? Foreman had nothing for Ali! Ali started bouncing straight right hands off his head from round one till he rolled him unto his back

 

I have already posted in this thread that Ali tactically outclassed Foreman in their sole encounter. Just because he wasn't KO'd doesn't mean he can't be KO'd. Mayweather Jr, Calzaghe, Marciano etc all retired undefeated, does that mean they are undefeatable? (actually don't answer the Marciano one, I think I know the answer)

As for Klitschko, I don't believe he would gas himself out in the manner Foreman did swinging away like a man possessed, Wlad is a far more tactically astute boxer and would pace himself. I love Ali, the man is charismatic, funny and entertaining in the ring and out. I just feel he is overrated as a boxer.

 

Your wasting your time here my friend the elevator in this section only goes so far up ,if you know what i mean?

 

I t would be very different from Zaire. Joshua probably would gass out after just 2-3 rounds if he pounded on ali with the intensity that foreman did. So i see it being a close fight, Ali would definitely win the action in the center of the ring but Joshua has a size advantage so Alis spoiling wouldnt work and he would be forced to work harder than he usually did(He wouldnt be able to clinch and grab the neck and manhandle Joshua like he did most guys around that time) But at the same time Joshua has bad stamina so if Ali has to work harder so does Joshua and then he would gass out. Decision or late TKO for Ali

 

A 19 fight novice goes life and death with a washed up 41 year old and now he would KO Zaire Ali?

Comedy at its finest, the AJ/WK nuthuggery is totally out of control.