Could heavy wght Roy Jones Jr have replicated ali against liston?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Could the heavy weight version of Roy Jones Jr have beaten the liston of miami? Could he have avoided the power shots of sonny, whilst frustrating him with agility? . Could he have taken liston in to later rounds where liston would suffer and be less effective. Or do the bombs of sonny find the chin of RJJ?
     
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  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I think it took everything for Ali to win.
    He even fought a round blind.

    I don't think RJJ lasts a round tbh.
    Every time I watch that fight I forget how scary Liston looked. He was all over Ali in every direction chasing him all across the ring.
     
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  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    RJJ replicates being a basketball that you get at your local sporting goods store if he had fought that Liston of Clay vs Liston I.
     
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  4. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones Jr handpicked Ruiz for a purpose. He would have avoided
    Liston like everybody in the early 60's avoided Liston.
    A replay of Ibeabuchi vs Byrd but this fight barely lasts a round
    with Roy counted out.
     
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  5. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Jones would be out in 3 rds at most.
     
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  6. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones is a great fighter...but doesn't have near the durability to last with a Sonny Liston. Big difference in John Ruiz and Sonny Liston...
     
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  7. Loudon

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    Ali taunted him, and was up on his toes, circling him, feinting him, and hitting him with aggressive counter punches.

    Roy would never have done that. He'd have been ultra cautious, looking for pot shots to try and steal the rounds.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Be serious.

    A round?

    Roy could have just not engaged him at all, and lasted rounds.
     
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  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roy would have lasted a round.

    Do you think he'd have just been static for Sonny to have caught with ease?
     
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  10. reznick

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    That's true.
    But any boxer can do that.
    I'm assuming he's there to fight though.
     
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  11. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roy jones was incredibly talented but if he comes to win he gets Knocked out within 6 rounds. If he comes to try to survive and maybe steal as many rounds as he can like he did in Tarver 3 he might possibly make it 15 but he wouldnt win more than 3-4 rounds. Jones of the ruiz fight had already been slipping for 4-5 years even though he had kept winning. He was never going to have a long run at HW anyway.
     
  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I don't think Jones would have engaged with sonny at all in at least the first few rounds. He would have been on his bike and liston would have been hunting. The only possible way for Roy to win is by being able to last in to the late rounds. If and it's a big if he manages , then sonny feels the pace and the chasing Jones fatigue s him. Jones has a chance of a upset ko or points win. But Jones gets caught by liston early on then its crunch time and Jones is out!
     
  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston knocks him out
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No he lacked the legs/chin of Ali.
     
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  15. SluggerBrawler

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    Come on, stop joking. Liston would murder Jones.
     
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