Was Marciano slow?

Foreman did have subtle skills though.

 

Marciano had short arms.
I don't think he was anywhere near fast enough on his feet to do well against giant heavyweights. That doesn't mean he was slow per se, or any sort of plodder, but just too slow to make up the deficit against someone giant, most likely.
Even guys like Tyson and Frazier had to work awful hard to consistently get punches off on guys 6'3 and 6'4 and both those two seemed a bit quicker on their feet and not quite so stumpy in the arms.

 

Vingo was a 6' 4" ,18 fight 189lbs bean pole who had beaten no one of any note.

 

I think you'll need to try a different tack in making a case for Rocky against SHWs than how he fared against someone who was, as you say yourself, a cruiserweight, Rez.

 

Marciano could have literally killed his opponents in the ring and he still wouldn't get any credit.

 

He must recognize this already.

 

Rocky was not as fast as Ali or Floyd Patterson. And neither was anybody else!

 

Nah. Tubbs probably would have been one of the fastest and most mobile opponents Marciano fought. He covered a deceptive amount of distance with his footwork and his straight punches. Had very fast defensive reflexes and great hand speed.

https://streamable.com/tp1hj

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Look, weight counts, no doubt.

But imho form on the day counts even more, and I've seen some performances by ATG's that, if you swapped Rocky in there, they'd lose. Billups / Lewis being a case in point.

 

How about Marciano v Lowry x2 lost his last7 , Mogard lost his last7 ,Applegate lost his last 7?
ps Billups had beaten Bonecrusher Smith in his last fight.

 

Not sure how that relates to my point tbh