Who is the beat HW of all time H2H?

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Who is the best HW of all time in H2H

  1. Lennox

    36 vote(s)
    23.7%
  2. Ali

    48 vote(s)
    31.6%
  3. Wlad

    20 vote(s)
    13.2%
  4. Louis

    2 vote(s)
    1.3%
  5. Holmes

    5 vote(s)
    3.3%
  6. Johnson

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Tyson

    10 vote(s)
    6.6%
  8. Vitali

    24 vote(s)
    15.8%
  9. Another modern SHW(name)

    3 vote(s)
    2.0%
  10. Another smaller older ATG(name)

    4 vote(s)
    2.6%
  1. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Just would like to check in and see where the forum stands right now on this. Again, this isn't legacy, so if you love old, smaller ATGs but don't think they could cope with modern shw's, don't feel bad in not voting for them.
     
  2. khaosai galaxi

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  3. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's very far from being the best HW.
     
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  4. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where is Marciano on the list?
     
  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    I have to disagree with this. I think Holmes was better prime for prime, also lennox, Ali just to name a few. Though I'd go with the Cassius clay version.
     
  6. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    I agree if you talk about ranking and accomplishment. But h2h there are not many i will favour against him with certainty. Maybe Lennox can give him a tough one.
     
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  7. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    You have a point. Ali Holmes and Lennox have good size to give vitali trouble. Still, I can't pick any of them confidently
     
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  8. howard29

    howard29 Member Full Member

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    Nobody touches pre-draft controversy Ali. He was as fast as a Middleweight. He'd outbox all of them.
     
  9. mirkofilipovic

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    You cannot outbox either Vitali nor Wlad, With Wlad you have a slight chance to drop him and possibly KO him, although not likely, but with Vitali you cant do both.
     
  10. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A couple things in response to above. I would have put Rocky and others up there but you can only put 8 choices up.

    Second, my thoughts on Ali and Holmes. They would have no chance against the top modern ATG SHWs. Too small and too light hitting. Every dominant HW champ in history has either been bigger than his peers and or harder hitting. Small, movement based hw's have never had a ton of success at the highest levels. In his time, Ali was big and fast, like Fury is now. Holmes was biggish and kinda heavy hitting. Both would now be too small.
     
  11. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali easily, one of the best chins, aggressive, boxes you out easily.
     
  12. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Excellent post, seriously you are some kind of super genius! Where do you get this profound acumen? How did you get it? And why are you not sharing the secrets of your intuition to all of us? Its as if you have a boxing PHD from the University of Shattered chins. :beer-toast1::clap::clapclap::clap2::deal::ole::roto2gaydude::worship2::iloveyou:
     
  13. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Well, what do you disagree with, then? If you are going to mock, you may as well put your own opinion out there and subject yourself to mockery.
     
  14. howard29

    howard29 Member Full Member

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    Wait, did you just mention Fury and Ali in the same sentence? That must have been a typo.

    Ali beat perhaps the 2 hardest punching heavyweights of all time in Shavers and Foreman. He toyed with Foreman before tiring him out so much he basically fell over. The Klitschkos are so comparatively slow I don't think they land many punches at all on Ali, tire later in the fight and get dominated. And for the few punches they did land, nobody took a punch like Ali. Holmes and Lewis would be more of a challenge because their boxing skill level was a step above over Klitschkos. Still, Ali (actually when he was Cassius Clay), was faster than either with better boxing skills and better chin. Biggest challenge I think would be a prime Tyson (around the time he fought Berbick when Rooney was still training him). He had the sharpness, speed, and success against bigger guys to give him lots of problems. Still, I think the Ali (Clay version) finds a way.

    All of that is IMO of course.
     
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  15. mirkofilipovic

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    I'm praising you :dunno