Better All-Around Fighter: Primo Carnera or Riddick Bowe?

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Who was the better all-around fighter, Primo Carnera or Riddick Bowe?

  1. Primo Carnera

  2. Riddick Bowe

  3. They were equally good all-around fighters

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I did, and I thought it was pretty clear :shrug:
     
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  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Might actually only be 5/6, if by some chance BrutalForeman and ForemanJab are the same person.
     
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  3. JoffJoff

    JoffJoff Regular Junkie Full Member

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    I've just finished watching the Bowe/Holyfield video produced and posted earlier by escudo. If it was within my power I would have all 5/6 dragged through the streets and crucified.:teeth:
     
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  4. reznick

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    @mrkoolkevin

    What exactly is your criticism with Primos jab?
    He does paw it sometimes, but he uses lots of different jabs, like the really nice long one at the end of the first gif.

    I also ask because Wlad also paws his jab all the time....
    Are you critical of his jab too?
     
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  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I promise I'll explain but first please let me ask: You honestly don't see obvious problems with some of his jabbing technique in the clips I put together? You see a man whose jabbing technique appears to be on par with (or better than) that of Riddick Bowe (the subject of the thread) and Wlad?
     
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  6. reznick

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    They're not problems any more than Wlads awkward ass jabs. And some harsher critics may have a problem with that technique. I'm personally really impressed by both their jabs. They both have tremendous depth with it. It's also no coincidence that these two were lineal champions amongst thousands upon thousand of their peers.

    Bowe has a more textbook jab. And I have a much greater preference for his jab style, which is way different than Wlad and Primo's style.
    Bowe likes to fight in the pocket. So what he requires from his jab, will be different than Primo and Wlad, who go in and out of range quickly and often.
    If you look at escudos gifs, you can easily see how Bowes jabs could be interpreted as pushing, instead of snapping, by low quality critics (imo).
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Ok. So the jabs (and other activity) captured in these clips really aren't any worse than those of Wlad and Bowe? He pretty much punches just like Wlad and any differences between him and Bowe are simply matters of stylistic preference (with Bowe's being more "textbook" but not any better than Primo's)? I want to make sure that I'm not mischaracterizing your assessment.
     
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  8. reznick

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    That's the gist.
    He is stylistically way closer to Wlad than he is with Bowe.
    But Wlad has the better jab.
     
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  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I'm still going through these, amused.
    You call him clueless, after he got hurt by punches?

    This has to be a joke. You're even more off than I thought. Wow.
     
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  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Ok. This just confirms that you dksab and are completely hopeless. Delusional even.

    But since I promised to explain, I have a number of problems with Primo's jabs in those clips. Several of them are just awful, awful punches. Some are slaps, some are thrown while he's off balance, they're inaccurate, poorly timed, not particularly sharp, and his mechanics often leaves him open to counters. In no way, shape, or form is his jab as good as Riddick Bowe's. This is absurd nonsense and you only demean yourself and further ruin your credibility by persisting with it. There are of course issues other than Primo's jab to discuss, but I feel like I'm throwing pearls before swine whenever I try to explain even the most basic principles and fundamentals to you. Good night.
     
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  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I didn't say that.
    Was it somewhere in the fine print of your post?
    Fake pearls.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    Oh this is just silly ,you 've never even seen him! Harris didn't carry a big punch and was chinny.
    He was Carnera's sparring partner and in his camp when they fought[In Brazil]do you think the fight was fought on its merits?
     
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  14. Contro

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    hahaha true.
     
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  15. Birmingham

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    id agree with some of it if it wasn't Dana White. Treats fighters like absolute ****. Lost count of how many elite fighters who wanted to smash his jaw off. Parasite of a man
     
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