Valuev in the early 30 s?

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you are still trying to spin it out, I canrt believe it!
     
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  2. HerolGee

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    dig, lazarus, dig. loving it
     
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  3. McGrain

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    Then you perspective isn't cognitive of the rules regarding weight divisions!

    About "thirty pounds or so"!? So not only is this NOT a heavyweight contest, nor is Louis (198) versus Max Schmeling (193)!?

    Weight divisions aren't governed by the "average weight of heavyweight contenders", it's governed by clearly defined categorisation!

    This isn't a "difference of opinion", this is you being absolutely wrong. It's fine to treat the Walker-Rosenbloom contest as an over-the-weight lhw match, there's nothing wrong with that - but to treat all contests that don't meet an arbitrarily assigned poundage as "not heavyweight" is preposterous.
     
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  4. Mendoza

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    Right, there is no weight minimum or maximum for a heavyweight.

    Super Middleweights today weight as much or more on fight night.

    Technically speaking McGain can claim it was a " heavyweight fight ", and he needs to as Walker's record at heavyweight wasn't great enough to make the top 100's heavyweights.
     
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  5. Mendoza

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    From my point of view, barely north of the light heavyweight division is far from heavyweight. About 30 pounds or so, based on the average weight of the heavyweight contenders of the time.

    If 30 pounds for you is not a lot in boxing when a fighter is in shape, we have a difference of opinion.



    You missed my point. I was saying the average heavyweight contender of the times in the 1930's was about 200-210 pounds, 30 pounds north of where Walker and Rosenbloom weighed in for their " heavyweight fight"

    A good trivia question would be what was the last heavyweight fight between top-ranked opponents where both contests were under 180 pounds?

    Walker vs Rosenbloom could very well be the answer.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    This doesn't make even a little bit of sense.

    You've got this ass backwards as well.

    I don't "need to" at all, if Walker doesn't make it i just get to write about someone else. Your whole point of view is skewed by this certainty that I have some Walker fetish where I'm determined to get him in. I'm not, at all, I don't care if he's in, even a little bit. I don't even particularly care for Walker as a fighter, I like him, but not particularly.

    I got the whole thing in reverse for not having Walker in my top ten at MW or WW. People saying I didn't like him because what other explanation could there be? Well, the facts of the matter. People with their own biases are always determined that one has one's own.
     
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