Is Joseph Parker fighting Tony Bellew next ?

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  1. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well done captain obvious. What am saying is he has been in with heavier guys than Parker.
     
  2. Okin129

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    I can't believe how some people give Tony Bellew a chance to beat Joseph Parker.

    Lesser fighters like Whyte, Washington, Breazeale, Izu Ugonoh, Chisora, Duhaupas, Pulev, Ruiz jr. and a couple
    more would beat him, he is not even a top 15 heavyweight.
     
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  3. James Smith

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    Yes actually you have a good point. It would be a unification, and as far as I know unifications trump mandatory's.
     
  4. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No he has not. Cruiserweights are under 200 pounds.
     
  5. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A boxers career doesn't start in the pros. And who did he fight in his last fight, oh yes a heavyweight. You nothing nothing sunshine so no replays for people who know **** and has never boxed before. Bellews ring iq is better than wilders and parkers put together. Cheerio.
     
  6. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just beat David Haye who all the champions were ducking and was ranked in the top 10 and top 3 in most organisations.
     
  7. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amazes me people must think Parker is the next big thing, he hasn't fought anyone.
     
  8. James Smith

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    Is the amateurs Bellew fought at heavyweight, which is under 200 pounds.

    You said he fought bigger guys in the amateurs, he did not.

    PS Haye is smaller than Parker too. I have fought in the amateurs. It seems to be you that knows nothing about boxing thinking heavyweight in the amateurs is over 200 pounds lol.
     
  9. IKSAB

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    Bellew-Parker has the potential to be competitive, Bellew-Wilder is just a total mismatch. Bellew knows that better than anyone, he wants nothing to do with Deontay.
     
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  10. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bellews last fight. What weight?? Night.
     
  11. James Smith

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    Your point was Bellew fought bigger guys in the amateurs, you were wrong, he did not, nighty night.
     
  12. Absolutely!

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    Well we've seen that you don't need to brilliant to exploit Wilder's flaws. Provided you have a decent jab and command of the ring, some basic head movement, and an understanding of how to feint and draw an attack, you can open him up. Wilder is super keyed up and responds to every little twitch and movement with full bodied crazy swings that leave him totally exposed. Bellew is at least on par with Szpilka and superior to Washington as a boxer, and both had sustained moments of success against Wilder. We don't really know how hard he punches at heavyweight, but I suspect he can get Wilder's attention if he catches him on the counter, and with the way Wilder gets his feet out of position a flash knockdown isn't out of the question.

    Parker obviously doesn't punch as hard as Wilder but he punches hard enough that it isn't going to be a factor in a Bellew fight. He also throws with much tighter technique, and has blistering speed in combinations, two things which I think negate any difference in their respective power. Against Wilder Bellew's going to have to be wary of that one big shot. Against Parker he'll have to be wary of repeated explosive flurries coming from all angles. Different type of threat that would demand a different type of preparation.
     
  13. Absolutely!

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    Bellew's hardly a master tactician himself so I think that's a bit of a stretch. He's superior to Wilder obviously, but Parker is a bit underrated in that department. His timing and shot selection are usually bang on, and he's quite hard to hit cleanly outside of counters, utilising a crude but effective shoulder roll and last minute turns of the head to take the edge off incoming shots. He's also been forced to adapt in twelve round fights against Takam and Ruiz in order to grind out the win, so we know he has that ability as well.

    Bellew could well be his superior in overall ring IQ as well, but not by such a degree that it'd be enough to negate every other advantage Parker possesses.

    Whatever ranking Haye had at the time was an inflated one based on his past status and obvious marketability. It didn't reflect his actual standing, nor should it have done considering his level of opposition in the lead up to the fight. In hindsight it was clear that his performance had already badly deteriorated and that, coupled with the injury, diminished Bellew's accomplishment as regards what it actually meant for his standing in the division.

    Takam and Ruiz. Both trump Bellew's win over that version of Haye, clearly.
     
  14. Absolutely!

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    Neither fight is competitive really, though Bellew has that potential to upset Wilder which he doesn't have with far less flawed Parker.

    Bellew will get brutalised against Parker, and if he doesn't then I'll stop being a Parker fan for good.
     
  15. madballster

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    Smart move by Parker, easy paycheck and lots of British eyeballs on him.