Richardson feels Golovkin doesn’t have the experience that Canelo has.

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  1. Kevin Valencia

    Kevin Valencia Member banned Full Member

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    I can't keep up with the Golovkin fanatics.. Sometimes Golovkin is a tiny MW who can make 154 if he wanted too, sometimes he's a big MW that would be too much for Canelo. Sometimes Canelo is a huge SMW taking advantage of JrMWs (who weigh in at 167-173 themselves on fight night), sometimes he isn't big enough to comepete with Golovkin who weighs in between 171-175 on fight night.

    Canelo has been in the ring with certified PUNCHERS. Fighters who have ended fights with their power or have dominated fights because of their power. Canelo has been in the ring with fighters as big as him or fighters proven at his weightclass and above including:

    Kermit Cintron
    Erislandy Lara
    Austin Trout
    Miguel Cotto
    Alfredo Angulo
    Liam Smith
    James Kirkland
    Gennady Golovkin

    Canelo is a more well rounded fighter than Golovkin who does not rely on his power, but instead uses everything from defense using head, waits movement, to feints, to combination punching, to counter punching, and has exceptional timing.

    And he has the experience advantage too.
     
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  2. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haha if Floyd is so confident that GGG is nothing special at all he should have fought him. He claims to be the best ever so adding the Middleweight title to his resume would boost that claim. Of course what Floyd says and what he actually believes is I'm sure two different things; He knows that GGG would break him in half.
     
  3. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These guys have had any number of world title fights apiece and seen just about every style going. It will be skills and intangibles, not experience that decide this fight. Neither of them are going to be overawed by the occasion.
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF would box circles around GGG this guy was getting touched up by Brook and Jacobs FFS. PBF is 40 with nothing left to prove he will fight Conor next and make more money in one night than GGG will in 15 fights. GGG wishes he was PBF and had his career and so do his fans.
     
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  5. Dreamking

    Dreamking Active Member Full Member

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    Whoa Kirkland wasn't a bum when he fought Canelo?? That's news to me.
     
  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GGG is gonna show up to look good. Once Canary gets hit he either runs or tries to slug and gets splattered.
     
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  7. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, and the best opponents Canelo has faced have been close fights (Cotto, Lara, Trout) or an outright schooling (Mayweather). I really don't see how Canelo beats GGG, he isn't outboxing him for 12 rounds and his power seems to be average at best, so I doubt he knocks GGG out either.

    Don't worry the GGG haters will find out in September when Canelo gets stopped. Of course, they will all discredit Canelo as not being very good, doing a complete 180 of their prediction of a Canelo win.
     
  8. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Floyd and GGG don't belong in the same sentence. Look at G as a 35 year old and compare to Floyd at 35. G is lucky to get a fight with Canelo. You guys are hilarious.
     
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  9. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Different people have different opinions. I've always said Golovkin is a normal sized MW, and I stick to that. Canelo, too, is a good-sized MW now.

    Well, he hasn't fought Golovkin yet. That's a very good list to have on your resume, sure, and someof them are good punchers too, but none of those have the p4p power of Golovkin. The gap is even more evident when weight-classes are considered. Plain fact is that Golovkin is the first legit 160lb'er with power that Canelo will face.

    I actually agree with good parts of your argument for Canelo winning. I just think there is also a good argument the other way, that's why it's a 50/50 fight in my book and I'm struggling to pick it myself. It's great that you are confident in your man, I have no complaints there. Same with those who are sure Golovkin wins.

    All I suggest (and this is a general comment, not aimed at you) is that the discussion be kept respectful and as free of hyperbole as possible.
     
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  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Come on, you can't be serious.

    Did you see the way Maidana manhandled Floyd and cracked his skull at the end of the 3rd round leading Floyd to stagger back to his corner?

    Well... GGG is far bigger and stronger than that version of Maidana and would not let Floyd breath for one second in that ring. He'd have no respect for his counters, he'd suffocate Floyd into a a seizure.
     
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  11. KiwiMan

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    I agree with the first part (Floyd has clearly achieved a lot more than Golovkin) but respectfully disagree with the second part. Golovkin has done more than Lara or Trout, and far more than Smith or Chavez Jr did to get Canelo fights.

    It is the logical fight. Canelo has grown out of 154lb so he is moving up. Since he wants to be a superstar he needs to fight the best MW. Which is Golovkin.
     
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  12. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I knew that would be your canned response about fighting Conor, which is a joke. Yes it's a money grab but Floyd already has enough money. The Conor fight wouldn't even be competitive, the dude couldn't beat the top 50 Welterweight on Boxrec.

    And you have more belief in a GGG win than your hero. He could boost his claim at "The Best Ever" fighting GGG and adding multiple Middleweight titles, which you claim is an easy win. I wonder why Floyd does feel the same way?
     
  13. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If amateur boxing has nothing to do with pro boxing, explain Loma and Rigo? High world level amateur boxing helps a lot.
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I sure do and I see how slow GGG is and how easily Brook and Jacobs when he moved had his way with GGG. I also saw how they beat him to the punch easily to. Maidana and GGG fight nothing a like Maidana is a awkward fighter who throws punches from weird angles he's also very dirty and physical. GGG fights clean is a boxer puncher who likes to pressure PBF's whole defense is designed to shut down the offense of orthodox boxer puncher's like GGG. The difference in PBF's speed and reflexes is tremendous when compared to GGG to be quite honest he's too fast for GGG of both hand and foot. Not only that PBF has the reach advantage meaning he will easily deal with him on the outside and control the range and dictate distance. GGG isn't that good he's been match extremely soft for a guy who's 35 fighting a guy like PBF is too big of a jump for someone as old as him who's never faced elite opposition. He would get outclassed countered and outboxed.
     
  15. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Trout faced Canelo and Cotto and Lara. Lara arguably beat PW, fought Canelo, Angulo, Darnel Boone, Vanes, Trout himself, even Ishe who is on par with a lot of GGG opponents.

    He just doesn't have an agenda being pulled for him. I can agree G>Trout. Cannot agree with G being greater than Lara. Sorry. G's not even challenged himself as much as Lara and Lara is just as much avoided as G if not more and isnt given the same opportunities as G due to his style.

    Since we're on the subject, seeing how G has looked human against Jacobs who had a caveman style before deciding to employ his gameplan of boxing G from a SP stance and all. I'm pretty sure Lara can beat GGG but he will get robbed.

    He deserves a fight with Canelo over Smith but Chavez has even challenged himself more and faced better opposition than GGG however you want to cut it.

    G is a manufactured fighter. Chavev who is younger than him has been known longer than GGG and almost would've fought Froch so that's just nonsense. G is a poor man's hypejob. People don't pay to see him, his hype and attention is what is most valuable about him.
     
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