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Ha!

I'm not surprised.

 

Yes they were better wins.
Eubank was an undefeated world champ on a long run of wins and with the best SMW resume ever at that time. Massive win far bigger than Froch or Kessler for Ward.
Eubank again was once again a bigger win.
How do you feel Benn was shot? Benn was a world champ who lost a close fight by debatable decision to a world class SMW and then fought Collins. Thats like saying Froch was shot because he had looked fortunate to some against Pascal, looked fortunate to some against Dirrell, lost to faded Kessler coming off a loss, beat Abraham coming off a loss, looked fortunate to some against faded boiled down Johnson.

 

I've just brought them up with Dino, who is now laughing at you.

 

Yes like I said if the points start small the posts will get bigger as the debate starts. Said that to you earlier

 

That really bothers me

 

Do you really think that was serious. If you do, you are more daft than I would have guessed

 

Yep, more daft than I imagined

 

For once, just stop with the BS.

Eubank had been extremely lucky to have gone into the Collins fight unbeaten. He even admits he lost to Benn and Schommer, and many people think he lost to Close. Also, we all know that mentally, he was never the same after the Watson tragedy. Collins beating that version of Eubank in a close fight, was not a far bigger victory than Andre having easily beaten Froch with a fractured hand. You're kidding yourself.

How was Benn shot? You claim to possess all of this knowledge of the division and the fighters, then you ask a stupid question like this. Everyone knows that Benn was faded at that point. Even Benn himself said: "I knew I was kind of gone"

We can't even give credit to Collins for the first win. You can only give him a bit of credit for the 2nd win. So he basically has 2 wins over Eubank, one over Benn, and one over Seillier.

That does not eclipse Andre's best wins. And if you want to give Collins credit for both wins over Benn, then you have to give Andre credit for beating Dawson. So wins over Froch, Kessler and Dawson etc, were better wins. Also, Andre was a better fighter. So Collins shouldn't be ranked higher.

 

I know.

 

The BS comes from your bias agenda that Todd exposed as trolling and got you banned so be careful

Many fighters get the coin fall their way, consider Froch with Adamu, Ward with Boone etc. Eubank may have had a couple of debatable decisions and in over 40 wins that can happen, especially when as active as he was, but when you hold wins over Benn, Rocchigiani, Watson, Malinga, Wharton, Holmes which werent debatable, you have to take him seriously and probably realise he may have struggled to get motivated for lesser known fighters.

He may well not have been, which is very understandable, but after that tragedy was when he went on one of the best SMW runs ever, so that makes your argument null and void dummy

How full of agenda are you?

Eubank was an undefeated 2 weight champ and reigning SMW champ on a run of 19 world title defences, on a run of 14 SMW title defences, not lost in 15 SMW title fights, was 28 years old with many top names on his resume who had been good SMWs, would still go on to be champs, and have defences.

Froch was on a complete SMW title runs of 5-1 in SMW title fights and out of the 5 wins 3 were considered debatable, was 34 years old and possibly the best SMW win in that may be A Abraham.

No agenda with you Loudon

Do fighters not sometimes say things like that?
Benn had been on a decent SMW title run and only lost a debatable SD to a fighter who would go on to reign again, and that equates to shot to you? Yet Froch losing to a faded Kessler coming off a loss is a great win for Ward. Got it Loudon. You have been exposed completely here

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What are you going on about? Collins gets credit for both as he wasnt being beaten up

Why? Dawson wasnt a SMW whereas Benn was and if you say Benn only lost because of an ankle injury first time, then you cant use that as an excuse for a more sound conclussion from Collins the second time where Collins was more convincing, so once again your trolling has been busted

So Loudons trolling continues
Froch on a SMW title runs of 5-1 in SMW title fights and out of the 5 wins 3 were considered debatable, was 34 years old and possibly the best SMW win in that may be A Abraham, is better than Eubank on a run of 19 world title defences, on a run of 14 SMW title defences, not lost in 15 SMW title fights, was 28 years old with many top names on his resume who had been good SMWs
The comedy continues with Loudons bias claiming Kessler who had not been overly active and had eye problems as well as having been clearly beaten was better than Collins beating Eubank a second time who had a far greater resume and more pedigree at the weight.
It gets better as wel as Loudon rates Ward beating Dawson with no pedigree at SMW ranks above Collins beating Benn because Benn had a debatable SD loss

Comedy Loudon and that is why I agree that you have been trolling all this time.
I admit I do congratulate you as I took you serious for years but when you look at the facts above and they are facts there really is little debate