Better All-Around Fighter: Primo Carnera or Riddick Bowe?

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Who was the better all-around fighter, Primo Carnera or Riddick Bowe?

  1. Primo Carnera

  2. Riddick Bowe

  3. They were equally good all-around fighters

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    This isn't your thread ,and you haven't answered my questions.
     
  2. janitor

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    I will do my best to oblige:

    1 Overall Power - Bowe takes it, but it could be debated.
    2.Chin - Bowe and if Carnera was superior, we would never even have heard of Bowe, given Bowes defence and use of reach!
    3.Defence - Yes, Carnera absolutely, and by default!
    4.Jab - Yes, Carnera and by default!
    5.Left Hook - Probably Bowe given his bizare reliance on close range tactics!
    6.Right Cross - I am not even sure.
    7.Overall skill - Bowe might take it in overall skill, but he has all the wrong skills.

    Carnera has painstakingly learned all the rigth skills, and he has a lot more self discipline, so ultimately he has done a lot more with what he has got!
     
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  3. mcvey

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    Bowe beats Carnera in every department you couldn't miss Primo with a right hand .
    Holyfield has just stated his jab was the best he faced better than Holmes, Lewis's,Foreman's. How can you have the wrong skills ?Either you have skill or you don't!
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    The poll in here is extremely straight forward and the results can be taken credible. The other is extremely limited and devised via dishonest motives. I'm disappointed you would support it.
     
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  5. Man_Machine

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    There's no getting away from the fact that your Poll was loaded.

    Moreover, you stated in an earlier post to me today that, in your Poll, 82% voted that Carnera was a legitimate champion. However, you say only four people voted Carnera a "fraudulent oaf". So, what's that ... ... 17 posters voting your way, totalling 21 votes cast in all?

    Given that 74 people voted in this thread's Poll, the current indications are that most people haven't yet voted in yours.

    Maybe this will change but, at this time, it is reasonable to assume that 'the majority' are not content to put their names to either of the options you have offered.
     
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  6. janitor

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    How can you have the wrong skills?

    Simple.

    Bowes skills would have been OK for Barbados Joe Walcott!

    For a superheavyweight, with a height and reach advantage, they were not exactly the best!
     
  7. mcvey

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    The reason for not complying with the underlined being it was a blatantly loaded poll designed to produce a foregone conclusion, which I why ignored it.
     
  8. janitor

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    I do not support either.

    I have never been a fan od polls on this forum, whether they favour my position or not!
     
  9. mcvey

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    Any super heavies beat him?
     
  10. Man_Machine

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    Indeed and likewise.

    And, who's to say that there weren't those of 'the 17' that made a 'preferred choice'?
     
  11. janitor

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    Did he fight any firstly?

    Lewis would have been the obvious choice.

    OK so the belt had to go into the bin.

    Golotta then.

    While Bowe won these fights, we have to ask serious questions!
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    That's because there WAS no in between to vote on.
     
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  13. choklab

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    Or perhaps they just think it's too obvious that primo was legit. The knockout of Sharkey is conclusive. Janitors thread showing all the name rated guys that Carnera beat using Ring ratings is conclusive. To discredit these points throws every champion into the same scrutiny.
     
  14. choklab

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    You don't need an in between to vote on. I keep asking you make your own poll. Please make your own poll.
     
  15. mcvey

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    Yes he did.