Better All-Around Fighter: Primo Carnera or Riddick Bowe?

In tribute to your penchant for the least plausible explanation, I put it to you that all those that could have voted but didn't have been the victims of a mass alien abduction.

 

My only penchant right now is for one of you start your own poll.

 

The trouble is.
Uzcudun
Godfrey
Campolo
Neusel
Lasky
Weren't rated when he fought them.
Which leaves a 32 years old powderpuff hitting lightheavyweight who was outweighed by84lbs
And King Levinsky who had lost 5 of his last 6 fights.

 

Of course you need an in between - you've only given two extremes as options and that is why so many can't be bothered even voting. Ridiculous.

 

Of course it is. Because, what the forum really needs now is another Carnera thread.

 

Why not? You won't get any complaints from me if you put another Carnera thread out there. Don't you have confidence in yourself? Or is it that another thread would educate more people into discovering the injustice that boxing folklore has dealt Primo over the years? If you don't do it you will continue to look like someone who wants to preserve the incorrect fraudulent oaf side of things that doesn't stack up.

 

In what world? Your deluded one? You are something else Chok :O

 

It's deluded to believe (on a thread where the reputation of Carnera is constantly attacked in an effort to diminish him) that there is an effort to preserve an image of him being a phoney boxer?

 

I've provided you with the reasons why not, already - Has your memory begun to fail, old chap? Perhaps you should read back a bit.

Whilst I'm sure you wouldn't complain about dragging this subject on - as it seems you have an endless appetite for recycling an argument, which had the arse ripped out of it several cycles ago - I see no value in running YET ANOTHER Carnera Poll.

You shouldn't see this as a lack of confidence, on my part. On the contrary, I am quite confident of there being a distinct lack of interest left in this debate. In case you haven't notice, there are only a handful of posters still discussing Carnera, now.

Your child-like and presumptuous taunts are really wasted on me. Although, I do sometimes have to wonder about your state of mind, since it's quite foolish to believe that, just because you are waving your colors, you're still fighting a worthwhile fight.

This battle is all over bar the shouting but you continue to frantically flap your flag around, amidst the smouldering ruins of your failed arguments. Blissfully ignorant of your having been caught in extreme bias, misquotation and the belief that Carnera is a 'Great'.

Please don't try and tell me what things look like because I know what it is and what it isn't. And, what it certainly isn't, is me trying to preserve an idea that you created, to slight certain posters, who disagreed with your inflated opinion of Carnera.

Carnera the "fraudulent oaf" is your invention. I have never once subscribed to it. Why on Earth would I want to preserve the idea?

It just goes to show how bent your mind has become on the issue. The situation has gotten silly and, quite frankly, has nowhere else to go.

 

That encapsules it completely and irrevocably.

 

Yes, let that be the end LOL

 

all you provided was the disappointment that my poll came out putting your view in the minority. Carnera is a legitimate champion and historians overwhelmingly believe he knocked sharkey out.

What am I recycling? I am answering your questions. You were upset that there wasn't an undecided option on my poll. When did anyone vote for the "undecided party"? Or when was there an "undecided" champion? Legitimate is a yes or no thing.

such a lack of interest you still want the last word...
It is a lack of confidence. It must be You are afraid of publicly backing the wrong horse. If you think it was a bad thread post your own one. It's a free forum. I don't mind.

I have not taunted you. If you don't think Carnera hit Sharkey, that it was a phoney fight, it's up to you. Just don't get upset if most people think that opinion does not stack up.

failed argument? I don't believe addressing the diminishing of Primo Carnera on one thread and then (out of curiosity) starting a poll on another thread in order to Investigate the current reputation of Primo is any kind of failure. It resolved things.

I don't believe I have misquoted anything. I have addressed the balance if anything. I don't believe Carnera is one of the very greatest champions either. He's one of the greatest of his SIZE. The record and the votes on the other thread substantiate this.

my opinion of Carnera is not inflated. Perhaps compared to those who insist Carneras legacy must remain deflated it might be but that would not be saying much. After all Four people, and perhaps the abstained, genuinely believe Carnera was a hoax.

you don't think Primo knocked out Sharkey. That would make Primo a fraud would it not? You do not believe Primo could box close to Bowes level of scientific understanding of the code let alone equal to it. Presumably this takes on the image of a big man who cannot box very well who won the title fraudulently. Hence fraudulent oaf.

Well, the topic has been explored again and posters have been saying they have learned more and revaluated their previous views. Nothing silly about that my freind.

 

Floyd Mayweather Jr and Arturo Gatti (random example) both understood boxing and exhibited a fair repertoire of boxing skill, do you view these boxers as equally good all rounders? Do you view all professional fighters as equal?

If I am missing something/not understanding you properly feel free to put me right, I don't wish to put words in your mouth but the above quote sounds like you are saying all boxers are equal.

 

Choklab why dont you add an option named "something in between" to your poll and invite people to vote again?