Ricardo Lopez vs. Chocolatito Gonzalez- who wins?

So it's your contention that Gonzalez vs Rungvisai was no more a robbery than Pacquiao vs Bradley I and that they were both close fights. How? Bradley only outlanded Pacquiao in one round and if you are going to say that his punches did more damage, I'll remind you that Bradley is featherfisted and that Pacquiao outlanded him in power punches all twelve rounds. I am at a loss how you would justify either of these fights as being "tight."

I'll give you this though, if Gonzalez vs Rungvisai wasn't a robbery then neither was Pacquiao vs Bradley I.

I'll agree that punches landed are not the only criteria for judging, but Gonzalez had better effective aggression, defense, and ring generalship too.

 

Didn't Wilfred Benitez turn pro at 15 with an amateur record of 123-6? Anyway, I don't get your point about Foreman.

 

Lopez in his prime was unbeatable. Both Marquez bros are poor man's versions of Finito. P4p better power, defense, speed, and ring generalship. The only time Finito struggled was when he was past his prime against Rosendo Alvarez, who was a beast in his prime. Chocolatito is an awesome fighter, but Finito would had destroyed him.

 

Lopez wins. No doubt about it. Gonzalez will be sent to kiss the canvas by Lopez's counter punches.

 

mmmm chocolate

 

Just like Ricardo Lopez, he won the golden gloves in his country several times. Not everybody goes international. I think you have to be 18 to do the Olympics and like you said he went pro at 17. Sugar Ray Robinson had about the same number of amateur fights as them and picked up some Golden Gloves the same way. Pacquiao got on the national boxing team at 14 and turned pro at 16 without even a Golden Gloves championship to his credit. Duran and Chavez both had twenty or thirty fights before turning pro early too.

 

Even Ray Robinson in his prime was beatable. Plus, I think JM Marquez is p4p better than Lopez. Lopez never struggled because he never fought anybody. If he'd dared to fight Carbajal or Too Sharp we might be able to more accurately measure his talent.

 

After Chiquita Gonzalez defeated Carbajal, there was an interest from Finito's side and Gonzalez wanted no part of Lopez. Finito used to whip both Marquez bros for years until he got too old and small to hold his own. I agree, no one is unbeatable, but Lopez was close to it.

 

Carbajal was at 107 when Lopez was at 105. Two pounds. That is totally doable. Besides, Lopez fought in junior fly the last couple of fights of his career. Plus, Too Sharp was right there at 112. People make that move from minimum to flyweight all the time. We got Pacquiao doing it about that time. Johnson moved up to get fights with guys like Fernando Montiel and Rafael Marquez. Same time period you got Tapia moving from super fly to feather. Barrera, Morales, Marquez are all moving up 4-5 divisions. It's what most talented people do unless they are chicken****. Right now you got Ward going up to Kovalev and Canelo sidling up to Golovkin. Gonzalez is in his fourth weight class. Lomachenko's in his second.

If another star is within a weight class of you like Carbajal was, especially at the lower weights, that's fair game. Jorge Arce wasn't any bigger than Lopez and he won titles up to super bantamweight. I'm just sayin' if Gonzalez was around at that time he would have fought Carbajal and Johnson.

 

Great matchup and would be a great fight.

Lopez would keep Chocolatito at the end of his jab and drop potent straight rights on Gonzalez' way in.
Lopez was so sharp and punched with so much torque behind his punches.

Lopez by late KO in a great fight.

 

At straw, I favor the more polished and completely developed Lopez. At junior fly I favor the stronger Gonzalez.

 

Gonzalez is too strong and physical for Lopez.

 

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