Updated Carnera Poll

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Contro, May 24, 2017.


Carnera fraud? legitimate ATG? or something in between

  1. Carnera was a fraud and was never an elite fighter got to the top on size and matchmaking.

    3.6%
  2. Carnera was a full blown ATG with elite skill, up there with the best big HWs ever

    3.6%
  3. Something in between. Good fighter and very large HW but not in the same class as a Lennox Lewis

    92.9%
  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    3 simple options. How good was he?
    Something in between means he was world level at his best but neither an ATG in terms of skill or legacy, nor a fraud/oaf who got to the top just because of size and matchmaking
     
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  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    He's up there with the SHW champions, he's not an all time great but a legitimate champion. As over 80% already voted on my thread.

    Where is the option for legit world champion? I can see one option for "good fighter" but the second option is the only one that applies to being a champion, so I picked that one.

    Primo was a world champion.
     
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  3. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I amended the OP to clarify
     
  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    It doesn't say legit champ
     
  5. BCS8

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    Hey-ho, Option 3 I go ...
     
  6. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because the poll is about his skill, there is no option that contains the word champion. Its irrelevant, Leon Spinks was a legitimate champion. Thats not what the poll is about
     
  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    My answer would be somewhere between 2 and 3.

    He is an ATG.
    He is most definitely a class below Lewis and Wlad.
    He is somewhere around Bowe imo.
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    The reason I can't put him along side bowe is this.. I can never see primo defeating holyfield in there fight in 92 but I can see riddick ko in sharkey. I understand it's not necessarily head to head your basing your debate on but it does make things a little clearer. But I'm not joining in the primo kicking. So that I see him as more a Bruno type rather than bowe. Imo
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I don't see the need for this thread.

    Carnera was the best fighter in the world at one point. Is he as good as some who came after him? Of course not.
     
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  10. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Bowe definitely has the best win between the two.

    I have them really close because they both won and defended the title twice. Both had a lot of natural gifts and developed talents. Bowe had the better win, but it seems that Primo competed at a higher level. Either way, I think it's hard to separate the two into different classes of fighters.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    Option 3 is an absolute no brainer for me.
     
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  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Maybe poll options should be

    A. Bum fraud
    B. Journeyman fraud
    C. Good fighter
    D. ATG
    E. Elite Great

    Or something scaling like that.
     
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  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    That's fair enough rez. That s your opinion and we're all entitled to one. Some fighters I like and regard highly others may not. It's why I have respect for a lot of posters on here, because they all bring something to the table and hopefully we can learn something new from them. I just try and keep an open mind on things and try to be as balanced as possible regarding fighters.
     
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  14. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Never change Fergy
     
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  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The results of the poll speak for themselves.

    Neither of the two parties who generated most of the 50+ pages in the Carnera Bowe thread is particularly representative of opinion on this forum.

    The vast majority of people sit somewhere between rightly or wrongly.
     
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