Spence is a 2 - 1 favorite, Brook a huge under dog

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  1. matt007

    matt007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe the bookies always gets it right? Oh hang on a min.....let see how far my childhood memories serves me.....Tyson v Douglas, Tyson v holyfield, lacy v calzaghe, bute v froch, klit v fury.....maybe add brook v Spence to the list after sat.
     
  2. Gil Gonzalez

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    I think what they see in Spence is a boxer puncher with great size, defense, power, a great body attack and maybe the best finisher in the sport. A Ray Leonard type (not saying he's Leonard but that type), basically the highest style in boxing. All he's got to do is show he's got the grit to put it all together and stop a top 5 opponent. Brook is content to armpunch and clinch his way to decisions. He's a top 5 welter, but he's limited.
     
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  3. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    They're called upsets for a reason. But yes, bookies know their business. But they play with the odds too for business reasons. Someone who's a real better can tell you about that.
     
  4. matt007

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    Some were upsets, while the others bookies don't know what they are talking about....that I have just told u.
     
  5. roly

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    Brook was tge favourite with the bookies when the fight was announced. And neither of them have fought since so it's tge punters tgat have made spence the favourite not the bookies. Add to that brook seems to have done the weight well. There's been loads of fighters that have looked the business fighting cans. We know spence can give it but no one knows if he can take it. Brook ko 9
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    2-1 isn't a "huge" disparity.
     
  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Still a bit surprising that a proven champion that is widely considered
    number 1 or 2 in their division is any type of underdog against someone
    that has yet to fight someone in the top 15 of their respective divisions.
     
  8. HerolGee

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    so u dont mean brook, hes not number 1 or 2 except for his one organisation, surely.
     
  9. OpinionOfACasual

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    I've watched the last 4 Spence fights, and in all of those fights he looked smaller, easier to catch and weaker than Brook did against GGG.

    The closer we get to the fight, the less i see it as a 50/50, but more of a mismatch.
     
  10. northpaw

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    I certainly think Kell is top 1 or 2 at WW currently, between him and Thurman.
    I don't think Manny beats either at this stage. If this was 2009 Manny then no,
    but Manny today isn't the same guy.
     
  11. HerolGee

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    no way man manny beats any kell.

    sorry!
     
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  12. bandeedo

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    you pulled a handful of fights, out of the tens of thousands of fights that have happened in the timeframe youre using... what exactly was the point you were trying to make?
    bookies dont just set the line by what they think the fight results will be, they also take into consideration how the betting is likely to go. they know spence is a bigger favorite than the line they set, but they also know that the majority of brits will bet with their hearts and inflate the money on the brook side, so even at 2 to 1 odds, the brits will provide plenty of money to cover the spence bets. if they thought the brits bet more with their heads, the odds would probably be more like 4 to 1, in order to entice the brits to cover all the bets coming in for spence.
     
  13. northpaw

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    Old Manny, yes
     
  14. matt007

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    Really sorry that I'm not old enough to recall 'tens of thousands' of these types of fights where the the challenger going into the champions backyard or neutral ground and are a fav with the bookies.

    Spence is a bigger fav....don't make me laugh....how is that so Mr bookie?
     
  15. bandeedo

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    so you mean if you had been older when you started watching boxing, you would be able to recall tens of thousands of fights? you tried to argue against the reliability of odds makers by using a .001% deviation in results... thats not the actual deviation, but its what you chose to use. do you even know what it is that youre typing?

    look at the odds, those odds mean that spence is favored by the gamblers, not the experts, the gamblers.