You simply cannot deny the damage GGG did had an effect on the fight

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  1. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the end it doesn't really matter Spence won but the judges had it Spence 97-92,95-94,96-93 so Spence wasn't up 4-2 after 6. Brook would have been in front.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    it does matter. promoting or perpetuating the narrative that brook was dominating a fight in which he was obviously incurring heavy damage is dishonest and weak... and it does a terrible disservice to spence and boxing in general.
     
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  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I think fighting at middleweight and then blowing up between fights to then come back down to a weight he was already struggling to make before all that, played a bigger factor than his actual fight against G.

    But primary factor was Spence, no doubt.
     
  4. andyw362

    andyw362 Active Member Full Member

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    Absolutely. The GGG fight was stupidity.
     
  5. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Youre both fcking delusional! Spence lost 4 of the first 6 rounds are you kidding me?!!! This fight was a tale of two halves. First 6 rounds Brook was giving Spence problems constantly countering him with the right hand and catching him with the uppercut then wrapping him up. Spence then figured him out and stepped up his output and it was a wrap. He in no way dominated brook. He wore him down and made him quit. The eye excuse or weight thing are just that. Excuses.
     
  6. andyw362

    andyw362 Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah but its about takin punishment
     
  7. alexland

    alexland student of the sweet science Full Member

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    off topic a bit but i'd like to point out that David Lemieux is a rare exception--he felt the Kazak thunder and live to fight another day, and perhaps even learned from it and came out the other side a stronger fighter.

    In fact, he's been the busiest of the elite MWs since his fight with GGG. In fact he is says he'd like another fight with GGG, says he made another adjustments and promises victory this time. (I don 't doubt his sincerity for a second, and I'm a huge Lemieux fan, but even i think that's a bad idea.)
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I don't need to wait to determine these things because I know for a fact Jacobs is ruined. You're just going to have to trust me on that. You'll see.

    Even if he does manage to rack up a few impressive wins over the next few years, his performances in those fights would have been infinitely better in them had he fought those same opponents before GGG ruined him.
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Agreed. I think GGG took pity on Lemiuex. That's why he turned boxer in that fight, because he had a lot of respect for him. I think he saw a lot of himself in him. They're both dashingly handsome, multilingual, KO artists who can take you out in the blink of an eye with either hand at any given moment.

    Yes I don't think it's a good idea at all. There's no way in hell any mortal man could share a ring with GGG twice and not end up shot to smithereens.
     
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  10. alexland

    alexland student of the sweet science Full Member

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    nice one

    i think GGG respects Lemieux also because Lemieux isn't afraid to take the big fights (granted, GGG was Lemieux' mando for the IBF strap)

    i've watched the Lemieux fight twice and indeed it does seem to me GGG "let up" some noticeable degree. Here's where what i think happend, no real proof for it, just what it seems like to me: in round six (?) DL was taking a right beating and went down on one knee. Obviously the ref's job is to step in between them when that happens but he didn't, at least not quickly enough. GGG hit DL when he was on one knee--i'd bet anything it was not intentional--it might have been that the punch was in motion before he took the knee. The ref's reaction seems to confirm this. GGG, who is a pure emotionless predator otherwise, was visibly shaken by this--eg, the ref didn't take a point or even warn him but GGG said something to ref his head bowed and his right glove over his heart.
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes you are indeed correct in that he also respects him for that reason too.

    GGG is a gentleman. That shot wasn't intentional. I refer to him as Quintuple G these day not Triple G

    Gennady Gennadyevich Golovkin the Globetrotting Gentleman

    Watch what happens at the 5:10 minute mark of this video. Their feet get tangled and Macklin falls back into the ropes. GGGGG graciously raises his arms and stands off for a few seconds to allow Macklin to regain his footing. The ironic thing is Macklin cracks GGGGG with a cheap shot a few seconds later as GGGGG is holding his head down lol

    http://dai.ly/x19zxdr?start=310
     
  12. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    To be fair, you're "tainted".

    Thus its possible your tainted-ness created your perception of this fight being "tainted"

    Unless you don't want to be fair??

    All I am saying is its possible.
     
  14. Glass Joe

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    This is the best and most accurate post that I've read today.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The occasionally brilliant Richard Dwyer, Ward's lawyer, said right when they made this fight that Brook would lose because it would take too much out of him moving back down to WW, and the beating GGG laid on him may have taken a toll, its one of the few times I wish I'd have listened to Dwyer.:lol: