Why does jacobs look so ...

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  1. tealt

    tealt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That fight was 7 years ago. Your body naturally gets bigger with age.
     
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  2. alexland

    alexland student of the sweet science Full Member

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    there are facts which support Beouche's post:

    • the contract signed by Jacobs and GGG required that their fight be under VADA
    • shortly after the contract was signed, Jacobs promptly registers with VADA (GGG had already been under VADA as well as CBP for a couple of years)
    • there is no record of Jacobs having ever submitted a single sample for testing
    • by contrast, GGG was tested five times during training
    how could Jacobs get away with not submitting a single sample when the contact required VADA testing? The same way Lance Armstrong managed to stay under the radar for years. We are watching it play out over again in Boxing because this is new to boxing.

    Clean boxing is a fairly new objective and the programs (such as VADA) to enforce it likely contains no clear rules regarding testing schedules--for now it's left to each figher to "do the right thing" (Eg, Lance was always "out of town" when someone tried to contact him to get a sample)
     
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  3. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Man, this this just gets better and better!

    OK so tell me, in what newspaper does VADA publish it's testing results.
     
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  4. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    This is nonsense.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You're part of the Barkley weighed even more than that club, right? Yeah I've heard all the theories regarding him allegedly ballooning up to 250 by the time he climbed into the ring. Personally that sounds a bit too far fetched for me to take seriously though.

    I don't even think rehyrating 90lbs after the weigh is physically possible. Sure 65-70 is totally doable if you know what you're doing, but I have a hard time believing 90 is possible. That said, Baby Jake Matlala reckons he used to come in the low 200s when he was campaigning at light-flyweight so maybe it can be done.
     
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  6. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    How do you know he rhydrated to cruiserweight? I thought he didn't show up to the rehydration weigh in.
     
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  7. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    No.
    It's not possible to rehydrate that much. Most fighters struggle to cut around 13 lbs or so of water weight. The most I have ever come acros is around 20 lbs and I am sure they had 'help' to do that
     
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  8. Farmboxer

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    I wondered why Jacobs did not have to take a drug test and Golovkin did................one title was not one the line because Jacobs refused to weight-in the night of the fight, he was a cruiserweight. SOB Ward helped him cheat. SOB is going to cheat against Kovalev, he refused neutral judges, said neutral judges would not be fair to him, he will pick the referee and probably be on drugs........................will SOB take a drug test? I doubt it, he does not have to fight under the rules, he will punch to the testicles, hold, headbutt, bite, elbow, you name it, he is already putting out propaganda to try and cause trouble with Kovalev and Jackson, also to help the hate of the judges for Russians...............
     
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  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One could also escape to their panic room and call the cops on the testers claiming intruders. Ask Serena, it works!

    If that dun work, you can just claim near death due to dehydration and ask them for a IV. Hey, it worked for Fluid? Right?
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The most I've heard a boxer doing was Daniel Geale when he fought Cotto but he weighed in with street clothes on. He weighed 157 at the official weigh in and 182 on fight night. So that's 25lbs but only because he was wearing clothes.

    Brandon Rios went from 147 to 170. He might have been wearing clothes too though.

    20lbs is fairly common. It's extremely common among MMA fighters. In fact, even more than that isn't that uncommon in MMA.

    I'm sure a lot of these fighters who rehydrate huge amounts of weight after the weigh in have had some help though. Up until recently most MMA fighters were using IVs or they were allowed to up until recently.

    This is the most crazy one I've ever heard of. Rehydrating 27lbs in 3 hours.

    http://www.mmamania.com/2012/3/2/28...-alves-gains-30-pounds-three-hours-dolce-diet

    That doesn't sound possible to me but I'm no expert.

    Another MMA fighter came in 26lbs heavier than he weighed at the weigh in for one of his fights and he probably came in there or thereabouts for numerous others too.
     
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  11. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    More facts that people ignore and refuse to acknowledge. Partisan trash that want every advantage for their guys. Disgusting really when you lose your sense of fair play and honor for your fellow man and competitors.
     
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  12. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Put on 90 lbs. in one day, and then fight somebody for 48 minutes? I mean dude, lets just stay in the right galaxy for a minutes. Did you ever eat 2 pounds off food on thanksgiving? Did you go for a run afterwards?
     
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  13. gold

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    At what age do you stop growing? You don't keep getting bigger with age. Your muscles can increase to a certain degree with weight training but the rest has to come from PEDS. I know because I have weight trained since I was 14.
     
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  14. Farmboxer

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    Jacobs was a cruiserweight for the Golovkin fight..............what was he taking? Reports are that Jacobs refused to take a drug test and he weighed too much, so the IBF belt was not one the line. SOB taught him how to cheat, but it did not work................
     
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  15. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And SOB will be punished for his behavior on the 17th ;)
     
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